[identity profile] ladynisa.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Dear Soon to be Extremely Annoying Coworker,


1. Nobosy's impressed witht he fact that you will be graduating from Ye-Crappy-Technical-School in 3 weeks with an AA that took you twice as long to get as it should have. So stop talking about it as loudly as you can.

2. When you sit in a room full of WoW-heads, don't proclaim that you *hate* WoW and think its stupid, especially if you haven't tried it before. It does NOT score you points, especially when the person leading the discussion is the Head Trainer. So shut up before the class descends upon you like a pack of wolves.

3. The louder you talk, the more people ignore you. And STOP trying to talk over everyone else when the trainer asks a question, ESPECIALLY when you DON'T know the damned answer!!!

4. You sure as hell have better not choose a desk near my friends and I, as I know most of the call center already. Because if you try this annoying shit after training is over, we will very kindly rip you a new one. And if you sit near me and hover around my desk as you did earlier today, I will duct tape your ass to the window!!!!

5. I may be a girl and a geek, but a snowball has a better chance of staying cool in hell than you do of ever getting near me, especailly since my FIANCEE works IN THE SAME DAMNED CENTER. My guild leader and my big brother also work in the same department. Try anything, and if you somehow manage to survive my feminine wrath, I'm quite positive you won't survive them. In fact, I detest you so much, that if we were the alst people on Earth, I would rather attempt to create some sort of centaur-esque being to continue a new race of humanity than even gaze upon you. /WITH/ clothes on. Its hard enough at work as it is.

Now if only I could email this to him without worrying about getting fired, as my Supervisor is one of the few that I /don't/ already know.

xposted to my own LJ

Date: 2006-05-16 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilpeach.livejournal.com
nobody should be allowed to hate WoW. it's just not cool.

Date: 2006-05-16 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenshrinkery.livejournal.com
I must admit I'm not a fan of MMORPGs in general. I played UO for over 3 years, burnt out, played DAoC for a while, TSO, and a few small ones. In some ways, I love the games - a little too well. They eat my life and cause me to not be a responsible adult. Better for me to just stay away from them. I also find there's a lot of ways to have fun online that don't involve the recurring expense. Plus, when I burned out on UO, part of it was because it was clear that they were making their decisions on the margin - how could they attract newbies and retain players. It had very little to do with overall game balance after a while. I'm not sure how WoW handles such matters (not being a player - sure, flame me for that if you wish), but given my past experiences in the genre and my own reasons it's best that I personally stay out of it. The managing life issues are my fault, though. Not trying to pass those off on WoW or any other game.

However, on that subject, I will note that people who DO have difficulty managing their lives tend to congregate in various online games. This may be anecdotal, but I knew one particular person in RL fairly well who supported his alcohol and weed habits by selling EQ stuff on EBay. He also happened to be a sperm donor (as opposed to an attentive father) to a 3 year old son (the mother isn't much better and the child is raised by Mr. Gamer's parents, but that's a whole other rant). I'm sure he's just the odd exception. It's not a matter of hating games like WoW, it's a matter of how they tend to attract some players who don't exactly know how to take care of their lives. If it wasn't WoW, it would be something else.

Loudly berate the game? Sometimes. Seeing RL references to it in what I feel are inappropriate locations (yeah, somebody probably reading this may know what I'm talking about) do bother me. Keep the online world online, already. If it's all everyone ever talks about in the office and people make it sound like that have no outside life... yeah, I'm probably going to think the game is what's responsible for making your existance pathetic. Otherwise, I'm content to smile and nod when you start up a conversation about it because I won't have a clue what you're talking about :).

This got entirely too long, but I hope this shows some educated thought into why games like WoW can be rationally disliked (as opposed to this lovely cow orker) without hating the players. Preferably without starting a flamewar while we're at it :).

Date: 2006-05-16 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teriwyn.livejournal.com
This may be anecdotal, but I knew one particular person in RL fairly well who supported his alcohol and weed habits by selling EQ stuff on EBay.

I can't help but note that someone who has alcohol and drug problems is probably not a good example of someone who made responsible choices before that game came along. So why are we expecting them to make the responsible choice now when they are faced with the choice of play games vs. get a damn job?

It's really the overgeneralizations that kill me. I'm holding down a 4.0 GPA, performing well enough at work to earn an 8.5% raise on my last review, and I manage to keep a reasonably active social life. And, yes! I play WoW, too. But people like those in your example above make me look bad just by association. Games are gaining popularity, but they haven't quite shaken the stigma of the 22-year-old college dropouts living in Mom's basement and subsisting on ramen because they spend their time in the game world instead of the real one.

We aren't all like that.

Date: 2006-05-16 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shes-precious.livejournal.com
Amen. I am a professional IT person with a full-time rewarding career, two children, a mini-van, cats and dogs, and a very fulfilling social life with lots of great friends. And I am a gamer - board, tabletop, role playing, and MMoRPG (www.istaria.com - Horizons). We're not all social misfits.

Date: 2006-05-16 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenshrinkery.livejournal.com
Here's what I have to wonder - is it people such as this person (who's lucky to have his shit together enough to make it to the toilet) or people such as those who've commented to this thread that make up the majority of players of these games? If it's the stellar gems like I know then there's a very good reason for the stigma, although I agree (and mentioned in the original comment) that if it wasn't for games like this they'd find some other way to waste their lives. That stigma isn't going to go away so long as there is a very visible minority of people spending 14 or more hours a day logged on and not doing anything else productive with their lives. While it's my hope for the sake of society that there aren't millions of accounts of WoW played by people such as this moron and that most of them are taken by people like yourself, I unfortunately remain unconvinced.

Date: 2006-05-16 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayfox.livejournal.com
I dont hate WoW.

I hate bitchy WoW players who are trying to blaim Blizzard's problems on me.

That dosent mean I care about WoW tho.

(PS: Please send some canned sleep, I need some.)

Date: 2006-05-16 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gilmoure.livejournal.com
PS: Please send some canned sleep, I need some.)

Oh man, where can I get some of that?!!! I've already gone through a quart of coffee but can barely keep eyes open.

Date: 2006-05-16 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shirenomad
I've tried it, but my first love remains City of Heroes. WoW's a quality game but CoH is just more my style.

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