[identity profile] the-paco.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
I got asked to help my father figure out why Quicktime wouldn't install on my family's XP box. Simple enough, right? Sure, until I found out what was doing it.


Cut through 3 hours of hacking away at an installshield error 1607, cut through the knowledgebase articles, the installshield help files, the dos commands, the registry fixes, the downloads, the identity permissions, the folder permissions, the file permissions, Mcafee firewall, noscript, and the test identity. At the end I faced my father, the man who works with networking equipment the size of a single tower system which costs more than a Dodge Viper, and could conceivably be used to DDoS God. I could only say this to him:

One: The identity you installed Windows Defender Beta on is hosed somewhere in the registry. I could fix it, but I'm not a developer and I don't have the time to run through the registry keys with a decoder ring the size of the house trying to find which part is trying to call which file in which directory of InstallShield that Defender suddenly decided was evil hackware that needed immediate deletion without leaving so much as a log entry. It be fucked, and there no be fixin' it. Make a new identity and pray nothing else got hosed even deeper, because this problem seems confined only to this one.

Two: For the love of my sanity, stop installing beta ANYTHING from Microsoft unless you do it on a test partition. We finally get 3rd party developers to stop installing shit in the windows directory, to stop installing shit with DOS installers, and to stop fucking up registry entries or memory location assignments only to have MICROSOFT pukes come along and do the same thing. I can't believe you installed a BETA release of a program that is supposed to make very advanced heuristic decisions about SPYWARE, some of the most insidious and ever-changing crapware on the planet, and then you act suprised when it fucks up? NORTON has been in the business since day ONE, and their shitware still says the Users menu in the Control Panel is a dangerous script and should be stopped. I'm suprised Windows Defender didn't build it's little ramparts around C:\windows\system32\ and then decide the ramparts and everything inside them were spyware.

Jesus. Christ.

Being unemployed is stressful.

Date: 2006-07-20 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kizayaen.livejournal.com
I am STILL trying to figure out why ANY [l]user would EVER deliberately infect their system with install a Microsoft beta of ANY PROGRAM... but especially something system critical, like, say, the OS.

Seriously, have these people been living in caves all this time?

Date: 2006-07-20 09:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torkell
It's quite simple. The thoughts that go through a [l]users head when faced with beta are roughly "Hmm, beta, blah blah blah buggy (what's that mean) blah blah bl- OOH SHINEY!!!!"

Date: 2006-07-20 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebtb.livejournal.com
hah! See my earlier post. I get no less than 5 emails a day (I don't know how many the other techs get) saying "I'm running Vista and now won't run! Do you have a fix or version compatible with Vista?"

or "Now my system is vulnerable because your firewall doesn't work on Vista. fix it!"

I always include the words "should" and "test environment" in my replies.

Date: 2006-07-20 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flainn.livejournal.com
This is why it's a bad idea to let anyone other than MSDN subscribers run beta software.

Date: 2006-07-20 03:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-07-20 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dog-star-man.livejournal.com
Fuckin' Quicktime....*shakes head*

Date: 2006-07-20 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mouser.livejournal.com
In fairness to Microsoft's Defender:

It's cleaned stuff "the usual suspects" don't recognize, and on the 80 machines I manage there have been no problems.

That said, I've GOT to use it because I can't convince my idiot users that some places aren't thier friends. I don't care WHO sent them the damn link!

Date: 2006-07-20 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ihateemo.livejournal.com
Did you jump or were you pushed?

Date: 2006-07-21 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
When the fuck did you become unemployed?

Date: 2006-07-21 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ihateemo.livejournal.com
Well, I hope things pick up soon for you. Being unemployed sucks ass (I was unemployed for 8 months when I first moved to the US and it was no bueno).

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