[identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
The employees here are always joking that I must be downloading hte whole internet, since I regularly take up huge ammounts of bandwidth getting OS's and patched, programs and the like. I'm sure some of you out there get the same thing.

So I wonder how long it would take to download the whole internet. Assume a T1 connection (because to do otherwise would be painful). Anyone have an estimate? I'll bet there's data on this somewhere. And I'd like to be able to throw a figure back at them. For example, "Yes. I'm downloading the WHOLE INTERNET. I should be done by May r3d of next year."

Date: 2006-06-21 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samwize.livejournal.com
I rather suspect that the content of the internet grows significantly faster than the download speeds of a T1. Or OC3. So I doubt it's possible.

Date: 2006-06-21 02:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inahandbasket
assume a T1? I think you'd need to assume multiple OC3's to even CONSIDER downloading the whole internet in your lifetime... but now I'm curious.

Date: 2006-06-21 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bdinger.livejournal.com
^^^^^

I think with an OC-192, you could PROBABLY get all the porn sites in a year. PROBABLY.

Date: 2006-06-21 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kallell.livejournal.com
I worked for SBC and when we where trained on those, i see an OC196 and think " I want a 4 Gig per second connection to my home :("

Date: 2006-06-21 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valiskeogh.livejournal.com
first, you'd need something better than a paltry t1, THAT would be painful. a t1 is ~1.5 megabits/s , when i was at my call center job i was sitting on top of 4 ds3 lines, roughly 150 megabits/s, you'd want to be on that or higher.

plus the storage... you'd need... multiple petabytes of storage available... if not more...

i'd just make up a number...
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Date: 2006-06-21 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omg-teh-funnay.livejournal.com
I just wanted to let you know that I'm stealing that icon.

Date: 2006-06-21 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zercool.livejournal.com
from Berkeley (http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/projects/how-much-info-2003/internet.htm):

Total size (2002): 532,897TB

Sooooo ... using a maxed-out T1 with no errors ... Umm ...

A damn long time.

If I did my math right, a T1 should handle about 15.5GB/day... so ... 94,000 years and change. Seriously.

Date: 2006-06-21 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zercool.livejournal.com
And using an OC192 (9.6Gb/sec), you're still looking at 15.3 years.

Hey, email me when you're done, k? :)
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Date: 2006-06-21 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torkell
This causes a problem: the exponential rate of growth means that whatever connection you have, it won't be enough. Unless, of course, you happen to have a OC-12884901888 or similar (good for 629145.6 Tb/s).

Date: 2006-06-21 05:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jecook
Actually, with OC192, one is hitting the limit as to how fast you can push the optical to electrical transceivers (both the TX and the RX components).

OC192 has been around for a while, actually. Unfortunately, the prices for that interface is still tremendous.

IIRC, a Juniper OC48 FPC2 interface card for the M160 was something like 250K, and that was back in 2002.

Date: 2006-06-21 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viper0775.livejournal.com
Walk over to the FBI with your 1,024 pentabyte external storage device and ask them for a copy, that would be a good starting place.. then just rsync the rest ;-)

Date: 2006-06-21 08:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-21 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naggy.livejournal.com
And of course, 90% of the way through, your HD dies.

Date: 2006-06-21 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torkell
No, what happens is the server gets bored with a measly 1 GB to go, and then doesn't support resuming downloads. So you have to download the whole lot again from scratch.

Date: 2006-06-21 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revchris.livejournal.com
When you're done downloading, can you put a copy on a floppy disk for me?

Date: 2006-06-21 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiroe.livejournal.com
What size? We've got a whole bunch of leftover 8-inch floppies here.

Date: 2006-06-21 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiroe.livejournal.com
..You'd only need some 1.304 trillion of them.

And with a known drive bandwith rate of 60k/s, plus a delay of about 8 seconds to change disks, it'd take about 1.033 million years to store it all.

Date: 2006-06-21 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revchris.livejournal.com
No, I want it compressed down to fit on only 1 floppy.

Date: 2006-06-21 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hisamishness.livejournal.com
When you get that floppy can you fax me a copy?

Date: 2006-06-21 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiroe.livejournal.com
So just save the Tubgirl image.

Date: 2006-06-21 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revchris.livejournal.com
Wouldn't it be simpler for you to just write down where all the ones go?

Date: 2006-06-21 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noweb4u.livejournal.com
bigger is better! since 1.44MB fit on a 3.5" floppy, 3.3MB fit on an 8" floppy.

:)

Date: 2006-06-21 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flainn.livejournal.com
But if you trim down the 8" floppy so it will fit in your 5.25" drive, will you be able to read it? And if not, how long until the tech support person beats you with a clue-by-four?

Date: 2006-06-21 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noweb4u.livejournal.com
you can only read part of it if you do that. It's better to go to office depot and buy a 8" floppy drive. Don't ask IT, they'll make something up to avoid having to get you one because they don't even have one that big for themselves, selfish jerks.

Tech support are nice people. I bring them cookies and they help me answer questions about anything, even pets and stuff.

Date: 2006-06-22 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david-feuer.livejournal.com
Umm.... If the capacity of the floppy were actually directly related to its area, an 8" floppy would have a capacity of around 7.5MB.

Date: 2006-06-21 09:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jjjiii
I think the internet is being generated faster than a T1 connection downloads at. You could saturate that pipe and the amount of unfilled space in your progress bar would actually grow.

Date: 2006-06-22 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] network-nerd.livejournal.com
Rule of thumb: A CD takes an hour at T1 speed.

My bet would be that the Internet is growing faster than that.

Date: 2006-06-22 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com
With or without the porn?

With porn: 1 trillion years
Without porn: I have it on a floppy disk somewhere

Way back machine

Date: 2006-06-25 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekgrrl-ca.livejournal.com
Some one is already doing this

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