Remember.

Nov. 11th, 2005 07:42 am
[identity profile] rrrebo.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Some of your customer are asshats, true. But some of your customers also may have fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters who are now, or have been, in harm's way for you. I think they deserve more than just one day, personally.




x-posted, etc...

Date: 2005-11-11 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
Ironic it's a world war two game he's playing, given that Remembrance Day is for the end of the first world war...

Date: 2005-11-11 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdrune.livejournal.com
After World War II the Australian Government agreed to the United Kingdom's proposal that Armistice Day be renamed Remembrance Day to commemorate those who were killed in both World Wars.

http://www.dva.gov.au/commem/rememb/rem_origin.htm

Through this annual event, the nation pays homage to those who died in two world wars and in many other lesser conflicts from the twentieth century to the present.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page372.asp

Date: 2005-11-11 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
Remembrance day doesn't have anywhere near the significance to Australians that Anzac Day has, alas. April 25th is the full ceremonial day for us. Remembrance day is still very much commemorating the ending of the Great War.

And the comic was posted on what's actually the 12th of November down here - it's no longer rememberance day. Timezones are a wonderful thing :P

http://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/anzac/

Date: 2005-11-11 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdrune.livejournal.com
Interesting reading.

Timezones can indeed make life a little amusing. Especially with topical webcomics.

Date: 2005-11-11 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
Anzac day is probably the closest thing Australia has to a unified religion. Even more than football :P

Re: Timezones

Date: 2005-11-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] compwizrd.livejournal.com
Canadian comic, actually!

I'll have my lawyers forward the papers to your lawyers?

Date: 2005-11-11 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bpcslave.livejournal.com
They do? You mean they're not all sitting on rocks, wearing furs, ripping pieces of meat from raw animal joints and using smoke signals to communicate?

(White puff of smoke for 1, black smoke for 0. You can use it to try to send pictures, but it usually takes a couple of weeks to let the recipient know whether it's a .jpg or .gif)

Date: 2005-11-11 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bpcslave.livejournal.com
"Dammit, that smoke was white, not black! I wanted to shock combo you, not rocket jump into the lava!"

"Shut up - you're cheating anyway. Damned smokemachine-hackers..."

Date: 2005-11-12 03:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] trixtah.livejournal.com
Well, damn, no wonder my arms are sore. Flapping my fur rug at the fire at 1.5Mbps is pretty tiring.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trayce.livejournal.com
I don't agree - everywhere Ive worked (Melb person here) has stopped and been silent at 11.11 am each year, and this year even the vets were outnumbered by schoolkids at the Shrine, according to the news.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
I'm not knocking Rememberance Day by any stretch. But one minute of silence...compare that to ANZAC day. Especially this years (I go every year) ANZAC day is massively imprinted on the Australian consciousness - especially in Melbourne.

I had the incredible honour once of seeing the Illumination of the Remembrance Stone in the Melbourne Shrine once - in person. I'm not sure if you're from Melbourne, but the Shrine here is deliberately designed. The stone is embedded in the floor, and bears the inscription "GREATER LOVE HATH NO MAN"

At 11am exactly, on the 11th of November, a single ray of light pierces the Shrine and illuminates the word LOVE.

I consider actually seeing that in person to be one of the greatest, most honoured moments of my life.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
ack, you ARE in melbourne, sorry, didn't read it properly. I beg coming off a graveyard shift for the brain malfunction *wince*

Date: 2005-11-12 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nessaneko.livejournal.com
In New Zealand, I don`t ever remember commemorating Remembrance Day. Anzac Day, on the other hand, is as you say - massively imprinted on the NZ consciousness as well as Australian.
(We probably -do- have Remembrance Day - I haven`t been in NZ for a bit and am beginning to lose a few of these details. But Anzac Day will always be strong in my mind, especially since I`ve been to a few dawn services.)

Date: 2005-11-12 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnoogle.livejournal.com
Apparently it happens twice on the day: once at 11am when all the officials are there, and once at either 10am or 12noon. Something to do with daylight savings and a mirror.

Date: 2005-11-12 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
Midday. The shrine was built in the 1930's, before Daylight Savings Time was introduced. The mirror was included to correct the fact that we'd placed the current time artificially forward an hour :)

Date: 2005-11-11 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bpcslave.livejournal.com
True enough. Although it does also make you think "You're still an asshat - why can't you be more like your father/mother/husbands/wives/sons/daughter/brother/sister?"

Date: 2005-11-11 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
I've had relatives fight and die in both world wars...and I'm not an asshat! (much) Why do they get an excuse!

Date: 2005-11-11 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bpcslave.livejournal.com
Why yes. Raging Bitch != Asshat.

Date: 2005-11-11 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
When Cthulu rises, I'll see you to be the LAST one devoured, you insignificant gnat!

Date: 2005-11-11 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bpcslave.livejournal.com
That means so much to me. I love you, man.

Date: 2005-11-11 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
Right back atcha babe

Date: 2005-11-11 01:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-11-11 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alysania.livejournal.com
I'm aware of it every day because the folks that I support don't just have family that might have been in the service, they ARE in the service and during wartime to boot. (I'm a civilian supporting the navy, marine corps, and government employees)

Date: 2005-11-11 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lions-tambua.livejournal.com
well, i'll wait for the independance day to start playing "slaving America" :)

Date: 2005-11-11 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abstrak-tokatl.livejournal.com
i'm just pissed that i won't get mail today. and they have atleast three. Day of the dead, Memorial day, Armastist day, Fourth of July, Mexican independance day, and Veteran's day. Not to mention a whole horde of others that people don't really give a shit about or celebrate.

Date: 2005-11-11 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
No, that's okay. Assholes are assholes, no matter who they're related to.
From: [identity profile] dario.livejournal.com
Veterans' Day (formerly Armistice Day)
November 11, is the anniversary of the Armistice which was signed in the Forest of Compiegne by the Allies and the Germans in 1918, ending World War I, after four years of conflict.
At 5 A.M. on Monday, November 11, 1918 the Germans signed the Armistice, an order was issued for all firing to cease; so the hostilities of the First World War ended. This day began with the laying down of arms, blowing of whistles, impromptu parades, closing of places of business. All over the globe there were many demonstrations; no doubt the world has never before witnessed such rejoicing.

Now we use the day to Honor all Veterans not just the ones who died!

The Forth of July is not a day honoring Veterans it is the supposed anniversary of the signing of the document that declared the reasons the 13 original colonies considered themselves independent from Great Britain and the King of England.

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