Intel Pentium vs. Celeron

[annabastet.livejournal.com]

Noticable difference?

Yes or No?


I have a friend who has an Intel Celeron 4 2.2Ghz processor 640MB
RAM, and I've seen a P3 450 w/512MB RAM run faster - on bare bones (or should I say no other installed software besides Office 2k) on Windows XP mind you. Although the 450 was on XP Pro and the Celeron was on XP Home.

I'm curious to hear some thoughts on this. I mean the Celeron (which was a Dell) could have been using a cheap HD. Although she has a 7200 RPM HD, and mine is too.

Comments

[lrdjester.livejournal.com]

The biggest issue is the Celerons have no (or almost no cache) to work with. The are constantly reading and writing to the RAM or swap file.

[methedras.livejournal.com]

Get an Athlon. =)

[thecrazyfinn.livejournal.com]

Very noticable performance difference between the P4 and the P4 Celeron.

The P4 core is very sensitive to cache size, the lack of cache cripples the Celerons, to the point where the fastest PIII Celerons(~1.3GHz) outperform a 2GHz P4 Celeron. The current P4's actually have about the minimum acceptable cache size for the core design

This is also the reason for the large performance gains of teh P4 EE's over normal P4's (2MB Cache vs. 512Kb.)

If you need cheap, go with an Athlon rather than a Celeron. Pricing is similar and the Athlon's are significantly faster.

[warlockd.livejournal.com]

I SOO want the P4 EE. If it wasn't so hiddiously expensive

[jordy.livejournal.com]

you'd need to drug me to go near another celeron.
they're slower than a wet week.
we've got a P3-600 that goes faster at times than our Celeron 1000.

[zig-mover.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Often at work on some of the emachines we have in the office (gag) I find myself wishing I was using my home computer.

..which is a PII 333.

*hides*

[achernow.livejournal.com]

I had an old Celery (300A [overclocked to 450]) for many years. It did well for what I wanted it to do. Would I buy another one? Probably not.

We've actually had a couple of Celerons in the house... My mom's eMachine is a Celeron, my bro's old HP is a Celeron and my old laptop was a Celeron (I needed a cheap laptop for wordprocessing when my P166 Thinkpad died)

Anyway.. I'd rather have my P3 650 than a Celeron 4.

XP Pro vs XP Home shouldn't really make a diff, btw.

-A

[klyf23.livejournal.com]

I buy AMD because, as far as I know, they don't foist gimped out versions of their chips on the public.

Hence the Celeron.

[edminister.livejournal.com]

intel p4 is a good processor, the celeron 4 is a cheap version of it without enough cache for "hyperthreading" so it really falls behind the p4, notice the list of machines rockmanac mentioned had them in it. They're good for checking email and run cold, but any serious apps like photoshop or sound editing, even office will suffer greatly. AMD plus a board is usually the route I take in upgrading one of those.

[dmsalem00.livejournal.com]

ee hee hee

I have a Celeron. a 733mhz Celeron. With a 66mhz FSB. or at least, a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, it used to be.

It's a factory stock chip, IE - it came in a hewlett packard pavilion. So through various headaches and whatnot, It's been overclocked....to something. I'm sure on a real system, in a real BIOS, I'd be able to tell these things. All I know is that sucker gets hot.

Of course now, I have to have at least 2GB free on my hard drive for virtual memory at all times, and the case on my computer cannot, I repeat, CANNOT be closed otherwise the chip melt and slag out the motherboard.

Oh, btw, this is the infamous HP machine that's also running AOL9.0 and Windows ME.

I R Teh Insnane.