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(After telling the caller to actually spell the ID, as opposed to punching buttons on the phone)*

CALLER: ...that's L like Larry, M like Mary, and # as in #all.

ME: I'm sorry, what was that last letter?

CALLER: It's # like in #all.

ME: Is there another word that starts with that letter please?

CALLER: IT'S # LIKE IN #ALL!

ME: Was that T as in tall, B as in ball, C as in call, D as in doll, or P as in Paul?

CALLER: Don't you speak English?

ME: It's just that you've picked a phonetically ambiguous word that does not parse correctly over the phone.

CALLER: A what?

ME: A phonetically ambiguous word. Let's try this again. B as in bravo, T as in tango, C as in Charlie--

CALLER: Can I talk to someone else?

ME: Sure thing. (transfers call to India)


*I have ranted about this before, and how people mistake me for the VRU.

Date: 2011-01-07 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightsinger.livejournal.com
Fucking hell. Yes, that would be the purpose of the NATO alphabet.

And people are surprised to learn I've memorised it... Cripes.

Date: 2011-01-07 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fragbert.livejournal.com
Me too. Some things that the military teaches you actually make sense.

I once said to sucktomer, "So that's V as in Victor?"

Reply: "No, V as in ..uh... valentine! My name isn't Victor."

Date: 2011-01-08 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brothersterno.livejournal.com
people kept asking if I was a 1) pilot or 2) ex military.

No, it just turns out that I had a need to be unambiguous over often shitty audio connections, just like pilots and military people, and unfettered access to internet search engines.

Date: 2011-01-08 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tullamoredew.livejournal.com
hm, I am an ex military, but our phonetic alphabet was a Hebrew one. Still, I've learned the Nato phonetic in a week when I was doing English support, and I still use it now (to name iSCSI targets :))

Date: 2011-01-09 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merlin-t-wizard.livejournal.com
In my case, when I started in the radio business, I was working for someone ex-military, so it seemed logical.

Date: 2011-01-07 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennielf.livejournal.com
See, I pick random stuff. Like M as in Moose or I as in Ice Cream or Icicle. I have no idea what the actual NATO alphabet is but now I know there is a name for it I shall attempt to actually learn it... :)

"The More you Know...."

(I like LJ it teaches me stuff!) :D

Date: 2011-01-07 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gholam.livejournal.com
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/FAA_Phonetic_and_Morse_Chart2.svg

Date: 2011-01-08 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-l-leonine.livejournal.com
F as in F*tard!

Date: 2011-01-08 01:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jecook
Delta Alpha Mike November Sierra Kilo India Pappa Pappa Yankee Bang

Date: 2011-01-08 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-reda.livejournal.com
That is exactly how I read that XD

Date: 2011-01-08 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klytus.livejournal.com
P as in pneumonia...
C as in Celtic...

Re: I've played this game before....

Date: 2011-01-08 02:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] supermouse.livejournal.com
D for Ential
C for Yourself...

Date: 2011-01-08 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
So uh...how were they pronouncing that?

Date: 2011-01-08 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notthebuddha.livejournal.com
"Yankee Doodle Floppy Disk, this is Foxtrot Zulu Milkshake,"
"Alpha Velveeta Knuckle Underwear, you are cleared for take-off"
"Sphincter Mucus Layer Ringworm, roger."

Date: 2011-01-08 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captpackrat.livejournal.com
I tried using the NATO alphabet with someone in India, that just confused them even more.

Date: 2011-01-08 12:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phantoms-siren.livejournal.com
"No no no!!! Not S as in 'Sierra'!! S as in SUGAR you moron!" *sigh*

I don't know if this is unique to the UK but here its standard with small children to say "curly cuh" and "kicking kuh" to distinguish between C and K. I've had more than one apparently educated person then go on to say "K as in Carrot! Kicking kuh!"

Date: 2011-01-09 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natalie-i-am.livejournal.com
Phantoms:
Karoten... they weren't wrong. Just using the wrong language!

Date: 2011-01-09 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanamiya.livejournal.com
(transfers call to I)

...I don't get it.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffydragon.livejournal.com
the word they were saying could have been ball, fall, call, doll, paul, awl, gall, tall, ya'll, hall, mall, wall, etc.

They needed to say something that couldn't have been a million words so that the OP could make out the first letter - the word they choose, it wasn't clear what the first letter was, thus the pound sign.

F as in francisco, b as in balloon, c as in charlie, p as in partner, a as in apple, etc.

Date: 2011-01-09 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanamiya.livejournal.com
OP kept nagging the customer about using the NATO alphabet.

OP transferred the call to India.

India in the NATO alphabet is I.

It was a terrible joke anyway.

Thanks for playing!

Date: 2011-01-09 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordstorm.livejournal.com
Er, so how does one actually pronounce "# as in #all"? Surely I'm not the only one actually thinking this?

Personally, I read it as "hash as in hashall", but it doesn't quite make sense to me, unless this is literally what the OP meant. Must be missing something in translation, methinks.....?

Which reminds me: is there actually a NATO equivalent to the symbol alphabet? Reading modern passwords out containing upper-ASCII characters is constantly a pain: not many users even know what an "ampersand" is (&); it's either "dash" (which is confused with "slash" at times) or "hyphen"; "hash" (#) is read as "pound" by Americans for some reason, which Brits naturally think is their currency sign (£); it's either "bang" (which again some users have no idea what that is) or "exclamation (point)" (!), which has so many syllables as to be unfathomable on shitty phone conections; and lastly the parenthecal symbols ({[]}) are anyone's guess ("open/left bracket/parentheses/brace/curly bracket/square bracket, etc")....aie.

Date: 2011-01-10 12:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Er, so how does one actually pronounce "# as in #all"? Surely I'm not the only one actually thinking this?

I wondered for a moment, but from the context, it means "some sound I can't clearly distinguish".

The names of the letters T B C D P sound identical except for their initial sound, so if you don't hear the first sound clearly, that doesn't help. Similarly, saying "[TBCDP] as in [TBCDP]all" doesn't help since all of "tall, ball, call, Paul" sound identical except, again, for the first sound, which you didn't hear clearly in the first place or there'd be little purpose in saying "A as in Alpha" in the first place.

("Doll" would sound different in my 'lect, but I acknowledge that it'd be a perfect rhyme with the other words for others.)

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