Feedback - is this too harsh
Oct. 8th, 2008 10:53 amHere is my response - from my own career:
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Career Limiting Moves
When I worked for a large engineering and construction firm, the process engineers (of which I was one) had a term for an action an engineer would take which would have an immediate and negative impact on his or her career. The acronym we used to describe these actions was CLMs, which was pronounced clemz. CLMs stood for “career limiting moves.”
Appreciate the power of the clem on your career path.
Use in a sentence: “He said THAT to his BOSS!!! What a clem!”
Provide an example: While working at this engineering and construction firm, I had occasion to visit a senior process engineer because I needed some information from him to size an equipment item. When I walked into his office, I noticed that his eyes were literally bulging outside of their sockets and his face was an uncomfortable shade of bluish red. I said, “Is something wrong?” He said, “I gave a new engineer written instructions on how to access and use the material balance program* and told him to size some equipment. You know what I got back?!” I said, “Sized equipment?” He said, “NOOOOOOOOO!! I got this NOTE: ‘I couldn’t get the program to work. Either write better instructions or do it yourself.’ CAN YOU F—KING BELIEVE THIS?!!!!!!!**” Then in a rather ominous tone he said,” As god is my witness, this kid will not make it through the year.” True to his word, this new engineer left the company in under six months—I believe it was actually four months. Was he fired? No. He was just given work. Lots and lots of work. Lots and lots of work--and no support. He started to miss deadlines—this drew the attention of other engineers who needed his work to do their work. So they started calling him and visiting him--and complaining to him—sometimes really loudly--all while more work was moving in his direction. Time to find a new job.
Quiz: Can you recognize clemz?
Scenario: You, newbie engineer, are in a meeting with your immediate boss (an engineer in her forties) and two members of your client’s project team at the client’s offices. One client representative is a
When you open your mouth, which of the following is not a clem?
· “I’m special and have always felt units conversions are beneath me.”
· “If it’s squared, that means it’s an area, right?
· “What do I look like—freakin’ Einstein?
· “Hey, I am
· “Ask the old dude—they used to have to memorize crap like that. YO!—old dude, show us your slide rule”
· “I think it is probably a big number.”
· “I think it is probably a small number.”
· “Bigger than a breadbox. Oh wait—a breadbox would be a volume, right?
· “Yeah, you keep giving me that look, bitch, and I’ll knock you out!”
· “Are there logs involved? I don’t do logs.”
· “It’ll take me a half-hour to drive back to the office and get my calculator. What’s your cell phone number? I’ll call you as soon as I figure it out.”
· “Can I call in a lifeline?”
· “HEY! What’s that that just went by the window?!!!! I think someone jumped!”
· “I have to go the bathroom.”
· “I do not think unannounced quizzes are fair. I feel disappointed.”
· “My religious beliefs prevent me from proselytizing. I have taken a solemn oath never to try to convert a unit.”
· “Do you have an Internet connection? There are lots of unit conversion programs on the web.”
· “So how is the weather In
· “Yesterday is history, and tomorrow is a mystery—but this moment is a gift, and that’s why they call it the present. Okay, everyone—let’s hold hands and sing kumbayya.”
· “It’s approximately 180 square meters.”
Calculators are great tools—but that’s all they are. They are not a substitute for your ability to do simple math in your head—or on the back of an envelope. Units are the part of the vocabulary of your profession, and they should come to you as easily as words do. Learn the basic unit conversions.
*Yes, there are programs to do these calculations, but you need to know what they are doing.
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Date: 2008-10-08 03:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-10-08 04:53 pm (UTC)Critical thought. It's the OTHER national debt.
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Date: 2008-10-08 03:42 pm (UTC)It also reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me that a student in his Graphic Design course could not find the center of an 8.5" x 11" piece of paper so that they could rule crop marks for a #10 envelope. Sounds complicated, but it's really just basic math. Not surprisingly, she failed that course and eventually flunked out.
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Date: 2008-10-09 07:56 am (UTC)(Just curious.)
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Date: 2008-10-08 03:49 pm (UTC)seriously, I agree with you on this one - if your work involves spatial stuff then it'd be a good idea to at least ballpark conversions in your head - an alternate answer would be "approximately..." based on the formula. I can understand that some people might not be able to multiply in their head, but knowing the formulas is pretty necessary.
(on the other hand - that thingie you got strapped to your belt? with all the pretty buttons on it and the glowing screen? yeah, your blackberry/palm/iphone should be able to provide an answer to that question. hell, there was even a conversion program for the Sidekick!)
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Date: 2008-10-09 02:58 am (UTC)For when you want to know how feet per second you car is doing compared to how fast a bullet is going...
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Date: 2008-10-08 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-08 04:30 pm (UTC)This sort of clouded thinking is why I always hit folks over the head who tell me "but I use the spell checker on my computer!"
You cannot spell check, math-check, even FACT-check LIFE!
know it yourself!
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Date: 2008-10-08 04:47 pm (UTC)But, again, if you're unable to learn at all, a tool won't teach you much.
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Date: 2008-10-08 05:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-08 06:02 pm (UTC)Nice to know I can do it... but if I were in such a situation, I would have brought documentation converted into metric already, or wrote the documentation with both measurements.
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Date: 2008-10-08 11:49 pm (UTC)Not that I've ever actually had to do this.
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Date: 2008-10-08 06:19 pm (UTC);)
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Date: 2008-10-08 06:27 pm (UTC)Calculus rots your brain, I wouldn't trust any engineer to do math of any kind in their head, and I'd hate to meet someone who would believe any mental math answer form me.
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Date: 2008-10-09 02:33 am (UTC)I resemble that remark!
After doing three years of University level math, I discovered the following:
Thankfully, that's stopped since I dropped the engineering for sysadmin stuff and now I can count again.
The latent skills however, never really go away. Every so often I still get asked to do some problem solving and it is really useful to be able to pull out the back of an envelope, scribble away for a few minutes and give an approximate answer.
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Date: 2008-10-08 07:11 pm (UTC)he cant spell the word "else's". (i can, i just dont care for apostrophes or for capitalization.) he's going to like your rant. (he doesnt livejournal)
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Date: 2008-10-08 07:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-08 09:32 pm (UTC)I have to admit, I would have said: Not a clue, all over europe we only use meters and no feet, I never learned how to convert.
But then again, in a job, where this comes up regulary? You have to know!
It's as if I was asked to change a "do-while loop" into a "for loop" and would say "bugger off, the do-while does it good enough so I never learned how to do a for" (I am a programmer ^^)
I really love this one *g*
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Date: 2008-10-09 03:20 pm (UTC)Not all have a do..while.
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Date: 2008-10-09 01:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-09 03:03 pm (UTC)But then again, I'm a computer engineer. I have to look up any unit conversions outside of electric power (for which there are basically only one series of units, so you don't have to convert from one type of measurement to another), because I don't care. Also, the fact that I've programmed in so many languages over the years means that I will often forget if it is length() or strlen()...