[identity profile] the-cynic.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Short story long: 48 hours ago our remote travel agents suddenly became unable to connect to the $AIRLINE reservation system. $AIRLINE swears they changed nothing; we know we changed nothing [and yeah, everybody says that...].

Call $AIRLINE Tech Support; look at configuration parameters for various items. The Level 1 finds something they feel is misconfigured, suggest we change. In the process, they say "well, no wonder this doesn't work; this is the wrong parameter". We remind them that it had been working just fine for over a year until two days ago.

Their reply: "No, you're wrong. That's impossible. It never worked."

Apparently all the staff travel we've done for the past year was imaginary.

At least it works now.

Date: 2008-07-11 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethb.livejournal.com
If it never worked, then they have to refund all the money you paid them by using it, right?

Date: 2008-07-11 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kenbrody.livejournal.com
From the other side of the fence, I often hear similar complaints from end-users:

Client: Your upgrade broke feature X. My code no longer works!
Me: That feature never worked that way. Your code could never have worked.
C: It's been working for years!
M: Put back the old program, and if your code works, send me something to demonstrate the change in behavior.
C: [after putting back old program] But, but, but... I know it used to work this way.

I have yet to have someone prove me wrong if I say "that never worked".

My guess (pure speculation, however) for your case -- your configuration worked due to a bug on their side. They fixed the bug, and your parameter now fails, as it was supposed to. We have run into that case, where a bug fix now catches an error that used to "work" despite it being "wrong". (Depending on the original bug, we sometimes add a config variable to keep the old behavior.)

Date: 2008-07-11 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thudthwacker.livejournal.com
I've had some of my own code do that, and it bothers me to no end. I wrote the code, it worked fine for weeks, and then stopped. I looked at the code (which I had not changed), and saw that, yeah, I goofed, and it should have been doing the wrong thing the whole time, and I can't even suss out how it could have done the right thing for weeks. But, behold, it did.

Generally, I shrug, fix the bug, and offer silent prayer to Eris for making busted-ass code do the right thing for no good reason.

Date: 2008-07-11 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
Unless you're Microsoft.

If you are Microsoft, you include code which emulates long-fixed bugs so as to not break legacy programs. While this is good for compatibility, it makes for a whole big pile of crap.

Date: 2008-07-11 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
I've never said "That's impossible. It never worked".

I have, however, often said "What a pile of shit. How the hell did this ever work in the first place?"

Date: 2008-07-11 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaidh-sidhe.livejournal.com
"We have always been at war with Eurasia."

Date: 2008-07-11 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2percentright.livejournal.com
LIES! We have always been at war with Eastasia!

Date: 2008-07-11 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyidyl.livejournal.com
*ahem* I had a friend of mine who took the call, not me. But the customer called in saying that they couldn't print from a specific printer. Come to find out that what he was doing was sending the print request to a different printer, then unplugging the cable, walking to a different printer (the whole time holding up both ends so the "data didn't fall out") and plugging it in. Obviously, this is a completely and utter impossibility, but the customer *insisted* that it had always worked that way and won't take "You're doin' it wrong" for an answer.

Also, many moons ago I used to work for AOL. When AOL client connects it forms a VPN-ish tunnel (from what I understand, it acts like a VPN, but isn't completely a VPN for some reason...I never really got into that much detail with it while I was there.), and therefore you can't use any other VPN software with it. Even though it's impossible to have two VPNs on a machine run simultanously (or, rather, it is impossible in theory.), there were people who would call in and insist that it did work. Same thing would happen to me at Verizon, people insisting they were connected via VPN to both the VzB and VzT networks at the same time, even though that should be a physical impossiblity.

Sometimes weird shit works when it really shouldn't, and god only knows why. Usually when I get those calls I just say "well, you're the luckiest person on earth. That feature worked when it should have been impossible. However, I can't get it back to that state because that feature not working is intended." Who knows. I blame the lawn gnomes.

Date: 2008-07-12 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekgrrl-ca.livejournal.com
I hear "But it worked yesterday like this" often. My answer is "It's not working now and this is how it should work, what you have is unsupported. you can do it our way and we will do everything we can to make it work or you can do it your way and be on your own".

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