[identity profile] irishmasms.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Windows Vista dragging your expensive, multi-core PC to its knees? Microsoft say: "Why not remove those troublesome, extraneous utilities such as your virus killer?"
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/83EC0FFE-EE04-4D53-8B87-25D1F05C954E1033.mspx

[face palm]

Date: 2008-02-02 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wxgeek.livejournal.com
To be fair, Norton Internet Security barfs all over itself on a regular basis, and I regularly have customer uninstall it, and OMG, the internet works!

I then have 'em DL AVG or our company's security suite, et voila.

srsly, if norton didn't suck, I'd have much smoother days.

Date: 2008-02-02 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canray.livejournal.com
"Disable Nortons."

"No, I paid lots of money for this!"

"Disable Nortons."

"It has to work, I paid Eleventy-Billion dollars for it!"

"Disable Nortons."

"FINE! Disabl... My IMs just started. The Internet is back."

"Uninstall Nortons, bring it back to the store, get a refund. Then research some of the other options available. Talk to the Techs in the back room, *NOT* the salesmen who will sell you a more expensive version of Nortons that will do exactly the same thing."

"But... But... I paid so much money for this!"

"There's better options, that are free for residential users. Talk. To. The. Techs."

Date: 2008-02-02 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wxgeek.livejournal.com
Exactly like this.

Date: 2008-02-02 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com
My users seem to have as much trouble with McAfee.

Date: 2008-02-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wxgeek.livejournal.com
yep, ditto. Norton has greater market penetration, though.

Date: 2008-02-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxico.livejournal.com
If it's the consumer version, hell yes.

I used to work at McAfee supporting their corporate products. 100% of Tiers 1-3 agreed that the consumer versions were absolute shit.

Date: 2008-02-02 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jon787.livejournal.com
Yeah virus scanners suck. The difference between copying a certain directory on my computer at work with and without it running was over an hour.

Date: 2008-02-02 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyidyl.livejournal.com
Y'know, really...I have to laugh at MS going "yeah, there are these GIGANTIC flaws in our OS, and here's how you work around them". Like disabling all the pretty fluffy junk, or limiting the number of TSR's. *facepalm*

It make laugh how they say "uninstall virus programs" and then later down the page they say "remove viruses".

Date: 2008-02-02 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canray.livejournal.com
Wait, wasn't the main selling point of Vista was that it was Fluffy Junk?

Wow, you turn it off, and it's STILL just a bloated XP!

Date: 2008-02-04 02:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
Vista's pretty much Paris Hilton in a new and more form.

Date: 2008-02-04 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
Aaargh. More evil form.

Date: 2008-02-02 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hangar.livejournal.com
I'm the only person in my family who doesn't use Norton, and I'm the only one whose computer seems to have HARDWARE issues more than SOFTWARE issues. Gee, wonder why that is.

Date: 2008-02-02 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soruk.livejournal.com
There will be some people out there (hopefully none of them here) who, given such a premise, will state that Norton prevents hardware issues.

Date: 2008-02-02 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hangar.livejournal.com
Sad thing is, you're probably right.

Date: 2008-02-02 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canray.livejournal.com
Yes. The less the Software works, the less often the Hardware is used.

The less often the Hardware is used, the less wear and tear that's put on it.

So, yeah, it works by making you NOT use the computer.

Date: 2008-02-02 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxico.livejournal.com
Norton prevents hardware issues by denying you the ability to actually USE your hardware...

Date: 2008-02-02 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] vampireborg.livejournal.com
We get that ALL THE TIME.

Although my experiance has been that McAfee will fuck a computer more than Norton will, but that 's just me? I use Symantec on my boxes, but that's also because a) buddy who works there, FREE and b) it's the corporate version, has less crap with it, and I know to tell it to not insert a layer in Window's TCP/IP stack. Which is how Norton scans email. Rawr.

But shit, free updates, who cares.

Date: 2008-02-02 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canray.livejournal.com
The Corporate Edition is pretty good.

After all, Corporations have Law Firms just chomping at the bit for lawsuits, whereas Residential users have to gang together to get a Lawyer from the College of PO Box 482.

Date: 2008-02-02 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yanni85.livejournal.com
It has been my personal experience that McAfee Security Center is more likely to cause problems than Norton Internet Security. However, that's like saying a Tank will make a smaller crater than Artillery. They both suck.

Symantec Corporate seems to work well (up till 10.2, we're ignoring endpoint here because it is the corporate internet security) but, as you said, it's because it only does antivirus.

Date: 2008-02-02 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
We're researching an alternative to Symantec Corporate Edition at the office right now.

Of course, if you REALLY want to lighten Vista, just VLite (http://vlite.net/) it.

Date: 2008-02-02 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yanni85.livejournal.com
We've switched over to the corporate version of AVG for a lot of our clients and well, AVG works pretty well.

Date: 2008-02-02 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxico.livejournal.com
My company has gone with McAfee, mostly because they put me in charge of it and I used to work for McAfee supporting it.

Date: 2008-02-04 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goose-entity.livejournal.com
and if you REALLY REALLY want to lighten Fistula, just run Ubuntu instead ;)

Date: 2008-02-03 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buckaction.livejournal.com
Shrug, nothing there that hasn't been said a zillion times before. it's good general advice.

Date: 2008-02-03 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekgrrl-ca.livejournal.com
that reminds me of this

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/2e680b8d-211e-41c5-a0bf-9ccc6d7e62a21033.mspx

Help on how to open the box....

Date: 2008-02-04 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 255-255-255-0.livejournal.com
Might be better off uninstalling Vista and keeping the anti-virus ;-)
BTW j/k

We run Trend corporate it doesn't always update properly but on the whole it's OK
Norton BWHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’ve had to repair way too many computers that Norton has killed to even contemplate it.

I was talking to someone a few weeks ago that believed the firewall was unnecessary on his web server ! :-)
I said fine you go and uninstall it then, it’s not mine.
(I was just thinking he might get a slight performance increase, for about 10 mins until it's infested with crap)

Date: 2008-02-04 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
Windows Vista dragging your expensive, multi-core PC to its knees? Microsoft say: "Why not remove those troublesome, extraneous utilities...

Removed Vista.

Installed Ubuntu.

My machine is much faster now.

Date: 2008-02-04 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
The next time you try to flame someone, try not to fuck up your anchor tags.

Date: 2008-02-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
Looking closer, not only are your anchor tags mismatched (most browsers don't care and it's supposed to be case insensitive, I'm just that pedandic), but the reason you have no image is because it's img src not img rc....

Date: 2008-02-04 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattcaron.livejournal.com
Not completely lost... It's just that your mistake was vastly more amusing than the comic you were trying to post.

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