It's Always The Little Things

[synthclarion.livejournal.com]

Names redacted to protect the otherwise innocent and knowledgeable...

15:09 <xxxxxxx> I want httpd to start on boot, it's in rc3.d, but it didn't start.
                Does it need to be configured to start anywhere else,
                like, sysconfig?
15:10 <xxxxxxx> /etc/init.d/httpd start works fine.
15:10 <xxxxxxx> also, what a load of guff rhel starts!
15:10 <syn>     ls -al rc3.d and paste the entry for your SXXhttpd?
15:11 <xxxxxxx> [root@zzzzzzz rc3.d]# ls -lah | grep httpd
15:11 <xxxxxxx> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 Dec 12 15:42 K15httpd -> ../init.d/httpd
15:12 <xxxxxxx> oh, wait.

To be fair, our chap was always a Debian man, but this exchange entertained me :)

Comments

[adamjaskie.livejournal.com]

Geh, this is why BSD-style init is so much nicer. I'll stick with simple scripts, and not directories full of symlink spaghetti.

[jon787.livejournal.com]

Silly people and your antiquated operating systems.

[synthclarion.livejournal.com]

TO ARMS, MEN!

[gholam.livejournal.com]

In the end, Windows will get you all.

[jimbojones.livejournal.com]

"antiquated"? wtf is wrong with you?

[jon787.livejournal.com]

Age-wise UNIX is over the hill.

[jimbojones.livejournal.com]

Who said anything about UNIX? Turns out that, ahem, BSD uses "BSD-style" inits.

[jon787.livejournal.com]

/me dusts off the asbestos suit

BSD is a UNIX because it was developed from the actual UNIX codebase and still maintains compatibility with it (atleast to the degree any of the branches of UNIX do)

Linux is UNIX-like because it was not developed from UNIX code and was only designed to be compatible with it.


But in this case, that distinction is irrelevant. They are all over the hill.

[jimbojones.livejournal.com]

BSD is a UNIX because it was developed from the actual UNIX codebase

Wrong. Modern BSDs (OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD) are derived from 4.4BSD-Lite, which was specifically designed to be free of any trace of the original AT&T source code. There was a rather high profile lawsuit about precisely this distinction, settled in Berkeley's favor in 1994.

and still maintains compatibility with it (atleast to the degree any of the branches of UNIX do)

Given that this is just as true of Linux, this ambiguous statement is entirely irrelevant.

But in this case, that distinction is irrelevant. They are all over the hill.

Put up or shut up. I'm tired of hearing this ignorant crap. Here, I'll start:

(http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/mysql.html)

Note that I'm not saying that Linux is useless or OMG BADZORZ, simply that it's ignorant to make baseless claims like "BSD is over the hill".

[dark-fx.livejournal.com]

simply that it's ignorant to make baseless claims like "BSD is over the hill".

You're right. Base:

Time: 0 = Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970

Current : 1197575912 = Thu Dec 13 19:58:32 2007

End : 2147483647 = Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038

End+1 : 2147483648 = Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901

Half-way (Hill) : 1073741824 = Sat Jan 10 13:37:04 2004


So you can see, it is in fact, "Over the Hill".

[jon787.livejournal.com]

Yes because a graph showing the difference between kernel patched for high performance and a stock Linux kernel are soooooooooooooooooooooo useful for comparison. Next your gonna tell me that my stock Honda Civic can beat a customized *comparable car* in a race! Nooooooooooooo! My over the hill comment was a joke, dark_fx got it, but you obviously didn't.

Wrong. Modern BSDs (OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD) are derived from 4.4BSD-Lite, which was specifically designed to be free of any trace of the original AT&T source code. There was a rather high profile lawsuit about precisely this distinction, settled in Berkeley's favor in 1994.

You'll notice I said "was developed". That removal of the source code does not change the fact that BSD was developed directly from ATT UNIX source code. Thus BSD is a UNIX.

[adamjaskie.livejournal.com]

As does Slackware Linux.

[hauntedunix.livejournal.com]

Redundant.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/BSD_is_Dying

BSD IS DYING.

(Netcraft confirms this)

[kukla-red.livejournal.com]

Try some word wrap... you're busting the margins.

[tx-cronopio.livejournal.com]

seconded

[synthclarion.livejournal.com]

fixed with a cut, the style defines a tiny-ass content area...

[jill-idle.livejournal.com]

Everything since the abacus, just a bunch of crap..

[politas.livejournal.com]

Thank you, Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie

[spiker-uk.livejournal.com]

Mmm. Thou shalt use "chkconfig" on RedHat-based distros. It saves tons of hassle in dealing with rc.d symlinks! :)

[ravan.livejournal.com]

Verily, else you make a big headache for the next admin. When thou dost write custom init scripts, thou shalt make them chkcondig compatible as well. RTFM to see how.