They all must die

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

I don't know who to direct my ire at more. Cisco or Symantec.
After spending all freaking day trying to get the VPN client on this Vista machine to work, I finally was able to by basically emasculating Norton Protection Center. The error I was getting was "442: Failed to Enable Virtual Adapter" and is listed as a known issue. They have a fix listed, but it didn't work. I scanned the internet looking for other ideas. Came up with nothing. Futzed around with the VPN client for awhile and in one of my attempts to connect, a small "Unauthorized blah blah blocked" window appeared from Norton. Alarm bells went off.
After shutting down as much of it as I could (which is precious little anymore thank you very much Symantec) and rebooting, I can get it to connect.

I hate them both so very much, right now.

Comments

[kizayaen.livejournal.com]

I'd personally chose venting my ire towards Symantec over Cisco.

Not much your VPN software can do if your firewall's blocking its ports.

[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

In customer support in my workplace, we just love hearing that people are using Norton Internet Security or similar Symantec products. Those are easy problems to fix: uninstall Norton.

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

The one thing that annoys me most about where I work is that we are partners of both Cisco and Symantec. I hate Symantec only a small amount less than I hate Norton. But am required to push it on all of our clients. *sigh*

The best part is Symantec is rolling out their new Corporate product in less than a month. Their antivirus is no longer just their antivirus. It's all security products in one! Hurray! Just like Norton!

Frack.

[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

But am required to push it on all of our clients.

Ooooh. You have my sympathies.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Hmm, yes, I'll be recommending to our Desktop Administrator that we move away from the Symantec solution. That sounds like a screaming cold-sweat nightmare, and we've had enough of those lately already.

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

When I gave the news to my boss, she thought for a second and then said she's going to seriously consider switching all of our clients to Trend Micro. Not my top choice, but a heck of a lot better than Symantec. :)

[notthebuddha.livejournal.com]

Er, Norton and Symantec are the same people. Did you mean Cisco is rolling out a new security suite?

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

No. I know they are the same company. Norton is basically Symantec's home user solution. "Symantec Antivirus" is their corporate level software. Their most recent corporate antivirus was Symantec Antivirus 10. At the end of the month they are rolling out "Symantec Endpoint Protection 11" which will incorporate antivirus, antispyware, firewall, intrusion protection, etc. into one single suite. Much like Norton Protection Center does now for the home user.
You won't be able to just install antivirus on a server anymore and then roll out the client antivirus to all workstation. If you go with Symantec, you will have to install the whole protection suite and then roll out the whole shebang to all the workstation. I can't even begin to fathom the potential problems given the sheer quantity of software that Norton screws up on a single computer. The port problems alone give me nightmares.

[nastajus.livejournal.com]

I think they imagine it works properly when they go to sleep.

[jdotmi.livejournal.com]

We just kicked Symantec to the curb because of it's numerous idiocies.

However, I've had no problems using Norton at home. Granted, I already know how to futz with it to make it work properly, so that may be working in my favor.

[canray.livejournal.com]

Yep, that's what I always suggested.

[siliconshaman.livejournal.com]

Grisofts AVG for the win! and it's free... [or it was last time I looked, they might've sold out to the corporate culture by now].

[laptop-mechanic.livejournal.com]

its a Symantec product. This sort of behavior should not surprise you at all.

[nastajus.livejournal.com]

saved your icon.

[canray.livejournal.com]

Problem one: Symantec.

Problem two: Vista.

Problem three: Symantec installed under Vista.

[siliconshaman.livejournal.com]

Solution Linex and AVG.
or buy a mac.

[what! some had to say it in this thread]

[110billion.livejournal.com]

Symantec is the root of all evil, without doubt.

[tophee.livejournal.com]

While I share the hate above for Symantec, I also have a great deal of hate to Cisco. Awesome hardware -- buggiest Win32 VPN Client ever. Checkpoint is soooo much smoother for Win32 VPN.

/toph

[mogaribue.livejournal.com]

I've found the Cisco client pretty functional, the only unexplainable insane crap I've seen from it is when 1. When installed on Vista 2. Installed in parallel with another VPN client

My coworker was venting his ire at me today that 64-bit Vista isnt supported by the Cisco client, but wtf am I supposed to do about that (I'm the firewall / VPN guy)

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

Cisco doesn't support 64-bit XP either. Which is why I already had some hate going for Cisco.

[mogaribue.livejournal.com]

Are you running T series IOS on the 871s? That caused us much grief (and I think T was the only thing available for a while with the features we needed). One we switched to main-line a lot of the problems went away.

[benatwork.livejournal.com]

Gyuh. Symantec, without a doubt. The only antivirus that protects you by making it so frustratingly difficult to use the computer, you can't get infected because you've given up and gone to do something else.

I had to troubleshoot a computer that was chugging along like a 386 trying to run vista. Surprise surprise, it had Norton installed. uninstall, and voila! It suddenly works just fine.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Norton Protection Center can bite me big time. It should be called Norton Prevent User From Doing Jack Shit Center.