[identity profile] ohmyhead.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Jesus H. Christopher Walken in the trunk of my car eating Cheetos in the nude. The woman to my right is dumber than a cabbage patch. Today's exchange, wanna hear it? Here it go...

Her: My printer won't print.

Me: How many times must I show you this? See that flashing red light? Reeeead the display. It says "Change Cyan Toner".

Her: I did that yesterday!

Me: Then why is this black toner box here?

Her: It said to change Cyan so I did.



Me: I've told you the last THREE times your Cyan ran out, CYAN IS BLUE!!!! Jesus.

Her: Uuh, er, um...*silence* while I thanklessly fix her printer.

Moments later...

Her in IM: I can't do V-Cards for some reason.

Me: (I go over there AGAIN, punch up V-Card help in Outlook. She promptly clicks it off and asks if I will help her.) Why did you click that off? That's everything you need to know about V-Cards. (I am trying very hard to grow a single self-sufficient bone in her hot but useless body.)

Her: No, I know how to DO them. But I can't get in here. (Shared network drive. When she double-clicks, she can't enter, and instructions for verifying her credentials pops up.)

Me: You changed your password a couple of days ago you said. The instructions for what to do are right there on the scr...

Her: *click* And they're gone.

Me: Why did you...

Her: (Tries to hit the share again)

Me: There! Right there, reeeeead THAT. (She does as I walk away. She still can't get in. So I recommend she close everything and REBOOT.)

Her, 10 mins later: Ok, it's all off!

Me: Oooook?

Me, 10 mins later: So, is everything up and running, all good?

Her: Pffft, ah been waitin' on you!

murderdeathkill

Me: I asked you to reboot. So ok, just turn your computer back on and log in. (Meanwhile I am trying to do something else at my desk that is HER job because she is an incompetent twat. Er, twit.)

Her: Now my computer won't even turn ON!

Me: (I walk over to her desk for the 10th time today, and it's only lunchtime, to find her pushing the power button on her monitor over and over.)

Her: See? It won't start up!

Me: Well, your monitor is on. *pause* But your computer isn't.

Her: (She looks under her desk and claims it IS on. I have already looked and it is definitely OFF. She is looking at the pretty red switch...ON THE POWER STRIP! At this point, I feel a stroke coming on.)

Me: I assure you, it is off. Do you have a computer at home by any chance?

Her: Yes. (All attitudinal, making this even worse.)

Me: Well then, please turn on your computer. (So get this: She reaches under her desk and grabs all the cords plugged into the power strip and starts pulling them toward her so she can reach the power strip switch. I swear to god.)

Me: What are you DOING? Ok, listen. You will be the very first person I have EVER worked with that I've had to show how to turn on their own computer. (And *doink* I hit the big blue power button on the front of her tower.)

Her: Oh, well I have a laptop at home.

Me: 0_o I will bet your laptop has a power button on it, too. You know what? I'm...I'm speechless. I just don't know what to say. (And I return to my desk to sit, rocking in my chair, in full view of her, holding my head in both hands.)

Moments later...

Her: (She walks over to my cube, all super-shitty like, and says) Please reset my password and I'll try never to ask for your help again. (And she returns to her desk, pouting.)

Me: Oh, you can ask me for help, that's what I'm here for. But it's not ALL I am here for! (You neeed to be more self-sufficient like all the others who have sat in that chair before you.) <--- I didn't actually say this part aloud, but I surely thought it.

So I reset her password and walk it back over to her desk...and see that she has the wrong format in the username field to log in!! I tell her to delete that, and Oh, here's the password you made me reset for no reason. She logged in, and hasn't said another word to me, and most definitely not a thank you. But this episode has helped me figure out why she always seems so ungrateful for me helping her all the time. It's because she knows that *I* know she is a totally incompetent meathole who is in waaaay over her head. She is fooling some folks, but has no hope in hell of fooling me. And get this. She's an Executive Assistant, making a considerable amount of money more than I am.

Question: Would you show this/tell this tale to her boss if you were me?
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Date: 2007-08-22 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] remix79.livejournal.com
No. Your boss would probably say "It's your job to help her!". She's probably going to tell the boss anyways. I understand how you feel though. Most people don't want to learn how to use computers, and that ticks me off. Aaaaaaaaaaaah.

Date: 2007-08-22 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] remix79.livejournal.com
Although, if you framed it right, you could approach the boss about getting her some extra training. Your boss would probably assign that to YOU. GAAAAH! Boss will ask what kind of training she needs, etc, then task you to give it to her. :/ So. Much. Fun.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brothersterno.livejournal.com
or just tell her to get out of the way and fix it. Unless you have someone else whose problem you can make it, it's your problem. I suggest killing her with kindness, rather than getting upset at how stupid she is.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superbus.livejournal.com
I'd tell anyone that would listen, and a few that wouldn't.

Of course, I've never been known for my... how you say, ability to play with others.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ianhess.livejournal.com
No. I would document things in email and send them to her for a paper trail. I would circumvent her for any work that needed to be done.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docjeff.livejournal.com
I hate to do this to you but it just begs for attention:

It's because she knows that *I* know she is a totally incompitent meathole

It's not nice to call someone incompetent when you mess up the LJ cut and misspell incompetent. :-)

Date: 2007-08-22 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nykeyoung.livejournal.com
I'm getting a big "TSTL" vibe from her.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gotica.livejournal.com
I was just thinking of that myself, perhaps they could use the key "specialist" or "external" training.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gotica.livejournal.com
mmm Hard call, I'd probably ask the boss to get her through some refresher training by an external group. Perhaps outline in a time frame of how many minutes/hours this cost your other projects because of their inability to grasp the more simple points of PC usage.

Date: 2007-08-22 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snyperwolf.livejournal.com
All I'm going to say is that this sounds like quite the Freudian slip:

(I am trying very hard to grow a single self-sufficient bone in her hot but useless body.)

Date: 2007-08-23 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/hub_/
But obviously you need to call tech support to learn how to do a lj-cut....





run....

Date: 2007-08-23 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com
Get her boss to sign off on a new policy - any staff member in the building is allowed to contact tech support X number of times a month - where X is somewhere around your average. Anyone contacting tech support after they've used up their calls will get a detailed invoice at the end of the month, and no more techsupport until they've paid for it.

"This policy will prevent frivolous timewasting."

Of course, at the end of the first month, said EA is going to explode when she gets the invoice for several hundred dollars. She may even take it to her boss, who (of course) has been personally handed an example of what the invoices for his policy will look like, twenty-four hours previously.

It may also be worthwhile to have a bit of a friendly chat with said boss over exactly what he will be doing if/when staff complain, how he will deal with people who initiate more than 5/10/20 calls per month, that sort of thing. This lodges the concept more firmly in his mind and means it's less likely to be completely thrown out the window when the EA throws a fit.

In fact, it might be an idea to delay her invoice for a couple of days and let the policy boss deal with some of the other invoiced staff first, just to get comfortable with the process.


Another option is to have a chat with the boss over the scope of your area. This would include fixing broken computers, possibly providing once-off training and documentation (depending on if your company has its own training area or not), etc. What should be discussed in depth is how your area should be dealing with:

1) People who are not reading the instructions they're given, and
2) People who are asking for the same training over and over again.

Emphasise the waste of money and personnel-hours which these issues are causing. Make sure you have prepared figures (and charts!) to back up your claims. Present a couple of options to the boss -

a) Keep wasting time, money, personnel, morale etc repeating the same instructions over and over again;
b) Provide the repeat support but invoice each division monthly for their excess incidents (repeat training or refusing to read instructions)
c) Refer such callers to their management, who must personally send in a request for each out-of-scope work item (either to I.T. or to the policy boss)

Basically, there's a lot of ways to make sure that the EA's incompetence is brought to the boss's attention over and over again, either by costing his area money or by annoying him every time she does something like this.

Date: 2007-08-23 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manuka.livejournal.com
I would absolutely tell her boss. If she is an administrative/executive assistant, a bare necessity for the job has always been to know how to operate standard office equipment (whether it's a typewriter or a stapler or a computer or a #2 pencil). She's clearly lacking a crucial job skill. Either she needs to remedy that (not likely, she doesn't seem to care enough to learn), or find other employment.

The corollary to the not caring enough to learn the skills required for her job is that she doesn't really care about the job itself if she's not willing to take the steps needed to improve her own job skills. Tell the boss to lose the dead weight.

Unless of course she is attractive and has big titties, in which case, that generally trumps anything else, unfortunately.

Date: 2007-08-23 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrirvallin.livejournal.com
If you don't care that much, don't teach her. At some point in time it becomes easier to just walk in, fix everything in 5 minutes, and walk away. Frustrating, but less stress overall.

Or, if you are stubborn enough to try to teach her, try different teaching techniques. I like making people take notes. And then when they come back asking how to do something, I make them look it up in their notebook. Some people also can't learn anything unless you make them do it. Stand two feet back. Don't point, don't take over the mouse. Just talk them through it and make them do all the work. Being walked through something like walking an 8 year old through it sometimes gets people to pay attention.

And if worse comes to worse, and you hate your job, and are willing to run the risk of a sexual harassment lawsuit, there's always the hot body angle.

Date: 2007-08-23 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docjeff.livejournal.com
Fastest fingers West of the Rockies :)

Date: 2007-08-23 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docjeff.livejournal.com
Colours mean little to me since I only see them as varying greys. However, I think explaining to her what she was missing would've been a better thing to do that treating her as if she was worthless. I'd be a might miffed if someone treated me that way, too.
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