[identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
We all know that the supes are there to take the crappiest of callers off our hands, and often get paid up to half a cent an hour extra to do so. But does anyone regularly deny callers their apparent Them-given right to a supervisor?

"Get me a supervisor!"

"No."

It's quite liberating, really. It separates the callers into those who will instantly back down and those who will explode into incoherent ranting, thus earning themselves a chat with Mr Dial Tone, with the option of calling back and waiting in the queue again.

It's even more fun when you IM the rest of the desk with "If X calls back, put them through to me immediately." There are some callers who just need to be broken on the wheel of Being Comprehensively Outmanouvered.

I don't know exactly when I started doing this. I'm pretty sure it was before I got shanghaied into occasional supe work. It was probably after I realised that the supes we had were either slices of fried gold (a tiny minority) or imbeciles. I wasn't going to spoil the day of the former, and I wasn't going to let the latter have an excuse for going near a keyboard.

What do you think? Supe, or no supe?

Date: 2006-10-24 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-deliveryboy.livejournal.com
I'm a supe, and we regularly advise those on the floor to advise that the supe isn't going to tell them anything different. Occasionally, the escelation is warranted, but usually, there is no reason for me to speak with them.

The awesome part, when they are transferred to me, and they obviously don't like the same answer, they will sometimes ask my boss or (and this is the one I love) the CEO of the company. That's when I advise that I'm the highest person they will be able to speak to. I usually get "Someone signs your pay checks!!". "Yes they do, and I get paid to make these decisions. Anyone else is strictly in an administration role and wouldn't have the ability to assist you regarding your techinical/billing issue."


I've had them hang up after yelling at me, then call back and ask for a Supe. Guess who they go back to? ;)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
Someone signs your pay checks!

oh you'd like to speak to the outsourced payroll department? Well...sure I guess so...I'm not so sure they'll be able to help you, but you can give 'em a buzz if you really want to. Tell 'em I said keep up the good work.

Date: 2006-10-24 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
actually, in my last job, we didn't transfer to supervisors. supervisors were not techs. theywere always former techs with the same knowledge but they were strictly supervisors, and only made descisions as pertained to employees- as far as the custoemrs were concerned, my supervisor had no power whatsoever. When a call got transferred to a higher tech, it was a second level tech.

(actually, I once had my supervisor take a call. But that was a slight emergency situation in which I had a sudden panic attack and couldn't speak. He took over long enough to transfer the call to the level 2 folks.)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
highest ranking staff member (BOFH) in a graveyard shift that has about 3/4 people on. Sometimes i take calls.

I love it when they scream for a supervisor. I love it.

"I AM the supervisor."

'coourse I'm not, I just don't give a shit because frankly? I'm only taking calls to give the helpdesk monkeys a hand. No one would blink twice if I never picked up a phone - it's not my job.

Date: 2006-10-24 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-deliveryboy.livejournal.com
There have been a few times I jumped into Queue to help out with something or cover for someone's lunch.

When I've had to tell people I was the supervisor, ther ehave been times where they didn't beleive me.

fun times :)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
Lemme just transfer you to my supervisor, D. Tone....

Date: 2006-10-24 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
I used to do outsourced tier 2 work, and you could get fired on the spot for refusing an escalation to supervisor. The instant they asked for it, you got on the horn to ops.

Date: 2006-10-24 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] floatingpencil.livejournal.com
I mostly thank my lucky stars that I'm about to get rid of the fuckwit, to be honest. They won't get anything more out of our supervisors and there'll be a fifteen minute wait to speak to one. Not because there's a queue, but because I have to put them on hold (hah), locate a supervisor, let them know what the problem is, take an optional two or three minutes to mock the caller with the supervisor, then the supervisor goes through their account to make sure they're not a serial complainer...all this time is time I'm not on the phone, which suits me.

Depends how much of a git the supervisor is, but it can take a while. Usually the fight has gone out of them by then, either that or they've transitioned into 'entertainingly angry'.

Date: 2006-10-24 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzyzx.livejournal.com
They just love it when I tell them there's no supervisor to talk to, because there isn't. *glee*

Date: 2006-10-24 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trayce.livejournal.com
I am reminded of the time I worked the interview desk at a certain aus govt department, and some cranky fuming customer demanded to "speak to someone higher up".

So the clerk stood on his chair and said "is this high enough for you?"

Ah, government work is so great. You just can't get fired.

Date: 2006-10-25 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ihateemo.livejournal.com
At my last job, the only "supervisor" demands I ever received were billing disputes. And since my role was as a tech and not a billing monkey I was only too happy to send them through.

One time someone who called through to our NOC (who had a service that provided e-mail-only support) got indignant when I told him that I couldn't troubleshoot his issue. I told him - quite rudely, since he was giving me shit - that since he had called operations and not support that he wasn't getting diddly-squat from me. Poor bloke got several weeks of frustration shot back at him. Well, it made me feel better...

But in all seriousness, I would never really deny someone a supervisor unless it was something I had outright authority to make a final decision on. I figure that my supervisor gets paid more than I do, so why not send him the shit that comes my way? :)

Date: 2006-10-25 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arsey.livejournal.com
My supes have started refusing to take calls, we have to provide 'one call resolution' and 'take ownership of the problems'

Sooo I have to refuse when a customer wants to speak to a supervisor unless I want a big lecture on how I could have totally dealt with that myself...

Date: 2006-10-25 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arromdee.livejournal.com
As a user, I can assure you that it is entirely possible for someone on the other end of the phone to respond to a complaint in a clueless enough manner that asking for a supervisor may be the only useful way to continue. (Particularly when the person on the other end is following a bad script.)

Date: 2006-10-26 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arromdee.livejournal.com
Deciding "well, I'll call the supervisor if the customer has a point and I'm really being clueless" has a problem: if you're really being clueless, there's a good chance you won't know it. Haven't you ever run into a clueless person who thinks they're totally on the ball?

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