*bangs head on wall*

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

Reloaded system. Uneventful HP System Recovery operation. Customer included Norton SystemWorks and Norton Personal Firewall for us to install. Installed System Works. Installation fine. Updated. Installed Personal Firewall. Installation fine. Both standard default installations.
Can no longer access Symantec liveupdate service.
Turned off firewall, updated fine.

*blink*

I really detest Symantec somedays.

Comments

[jahbulon.livejournal.com]

I detest Symantec most days. Here in ISP support we hate it.

I've never had good times with Norton, there's always some niggling issue or the firewall blocks everything. ptui!

[jecook]

I only use two Symantec branded things:

Ghost, and the DOS version of Disk Doctor.

I've heard pretty decent things about the corporate version of norton Anti-virus (ya know, the enterprise version that is sold by seats, and can be configured to hit up a local server for updates instead of the internet) However, I have not used any version of it since '02, so I can't recommend it without playing with it again.

I don't like any software based firewall software. too complex for any users to figure out, and the products either charge for security/bug fixes, (i.e., the subscription model) or cause the machine to have fits.

I can tell you right now: stay away from Panda Anti virus. It's not worth it. We have a 160 seat copy of it, and about half of them would not update for a period of 3-5 days, due a server issue with panada itself, AND it refuses to update from our local server.

[dr-atheist.livejournal.com]

Panda firewall is the shittiest peice of crap I ever had the msifortune to install. After giving dreamweaver full server/internet permissions it still refused to ftp unless I disabled the firewall, at which point it threw a hissy fit if I tried to turn the firewall back on. Zone Alarm and AVG are a winning combination, free for single users and utterly background unless somethings wrong (ie a virus/new program access)

[mtlchick.livejournal.com]

Zone Alarm and AVG are a winning combination, free for single users and utterly background unless somethings wrong (ie a virus/new program access)
Much agreed (states another ISP rep with a HATRED for Symantec). Shame I can't wave my magic tech support wand and bless my users with them.

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

The one I've had the most problems with is McAfee. But that's probably just because we see so few machines with Panda in our shop. I actually had to build a system for a customer once and download & install Panda for them. It was rather painful.

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

Ow, I know. We've had untold machines come in after an unsuccessful Norton uninstall.

[tjernobyl.livejournal.com]

Is there any way of fixing it other than mucking about with the registry?

[polarbee.livejournal.com]

Not that I know of. And sometimes, the easiest thing is just say "screw it" and reload the OS.

[axessdenyd.livejournal.com]

Norton wouldn't be so bad if it would get along with itself.

Installing one piece of Norton software is OK, but put anything else on with it, and...you're screwed.

[axessdenyd.livejournal.com]

I dig AVG, but I haven't liked ZA for the lazt few versions. It seems that it has started to enjoy randomly blocking all internet access for no good reason (even when it claims it isn't).

[dr-atheist.livejournal.com]

Zone alarm has never done anything bad to me, apart from the time I accidentally downloaded the trial pro version and it expired. I then downloaded Kerio firewall, hated it with a passion, tried panda, and then came crawling back to ZA.

[axessdenyd.livejournal.com]

Kerio's been OK for me so far, it's maybe just a little overzealous.

[dr-atheist.livejournal.com]

I just hate the way it checks every single port even after you've given permissions to the app.

[axessdenyd.livejournal.com]

The annoying bits to me are the "application is loading another process!" alerts.

Seems pretty secure though, and I haven't had it cut my access off unexpectedly.

Plus ZA just never seemed to love BT.

[shifuimam.livejournal.com]

I like Symantec AntiVirus Corporate, which I get for free from my school, but I hate, hate, hate Norton Internet Security/Personal Firewall/AntiVirus 2004. I generally end up uninstalling all that crap and putting on Symantec for my residents (which is officially supported by our phone support people) because Internet Security causes so many problems.

[ravenshrinkery.livejournal.com]

Our client heavily promotes Norton Internet Security. I sometimes think it's because our feebased support is able to capitalize on what a POS it is and drive more call volume (not to mention extra memory sales when it hoses the 64MB Windows ME install somebody put it on).

I stick with AVG and Sygate Personal Firewall. Don't recommend the firewall for the novice user, but to anyone with a basic understanding of what the firewall is supposed to do it's pretty nice.

Hi, I'm new.

[madd-trinity.livejournal.com]

I completely agree. Norton gave me more pop-ups than just surfing the web alone. I had my reservations about Zone Alarm (mostly because E.U.'s didn't who how to use it and they screwed up their O.S.), but now I tell people to use Z.A.

Screw Symantec!

[klyf23.livejournal.com]

Not to mention the weird crap their antivirus can do to email.

[tjernobyl.livejournal.com]

My aunt's system got quite fecked by it. I went through half of the manual uninstallation process and gave up. The manual uninstallation process for most of the virii is easier. Why can't they make a utility for this as well?

I guess it would be like admitting they were wrong. :P

[dmsalem00.livejournal.com]

haha panda. We were recently bought out by a much larger company, and the first thing our IT guy did was ditch Panda and convince the new corporate to foot the bill for a sitewide license for Trend-Micro OfficeScan.

I shook that man's hand, or at least tried to. 1 IT guy for a 600-seat call center. And we bitch abour OUR jobs..

[dmsalem00.livejournal.com]

Sys Requirements for WinME = 32MB.

Max Memory for ME(without reg-screwing) = 512MB.

Sys Requirements for WinME + Norton Internet Security = 255685452356MB aka Priceless.

There are some things even memory can't buy. For everything else, there's Norton.