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techrecoverySo I finally did it. I upgraded to Win2K.
For those of you who know me, this is a big thing. I've been a staunch supporter of Windows ME for quite some time. Yes, you heard right.
Gotta say though, after I got over the hurdle of 2K being confused about an onboard video and a PCI video card on the same machine, it's pretty speedy. Bare-bones, so to speak. That, and I only had to load one driver after installation.
Nice. Well, welcome me into the modern age, everyone..
x-posted to my journal and techsupport
For those of you who know me, this is a big thing. I've been a staunch supporter of Windows ME for quite some time. Yes, you heard right.
Gotta say though, after I got over the hurdle of 2K being confused about an onboard video and a PCI video card on the same machine, it's pretty speedy. Bare-bones, so to speak. That, and I only had to load one driver after installation.
Nice. Well, welcome me into the modern age, everyone..
x-posted to my journal and techsupport
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Date: 2004-09-01 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 04:13 pm (UTC)Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-01 04:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 04:29 pm (UTC)LLOOLLL
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Date: 2004-09-01 05:31 pm (UTC)Heck, even I have ME at home and I know it sucks arse.
Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-01 06:24 pm (UTC)I loved ME b/c I wasn't fond of the vast library of blue screen errors the NT-based windows had. There were way too many things, in my opinion, to break.
Add that to the fact that I run a rather low-powered machine(cel733, 156MB PC100 RAM, PCI 64MB video card), ME's lowly system requirements meant more free memory for running newer games. I'd tweaked and tuned ME into a fine, light-weight, overpowered OS. Only problems, and this is what prompted me to upgrade, was lack of support on the newest Nvidia drivers, and the memory cap(I fully intend to use more than 512MB of RAM in the near future).
Basically put, you'd have to run ME on my system to really know ME. The same pride a parent feels when their "challenged" child wins the special olympics is the same pride I feel when I run Need For Speed: Underground on an obscenely underpowered system with a notoriously buggy OS.
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Date: 2004-09-01 06:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 06:26 pm (UTC)Shows how little you know me..
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Date: 2004-09-01 06:26 pm (UTC)I prefer fucking redheads ;-p
Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-01 07:24 pm (UTC)ROTFL
Ok I think I see what you're saying.
Either way, I'll tell ya. I had Windows ME installed on my mom's PC. After multiple problems I got sick of troubleshooting and downgraded it to Windows 98. She was good until she got a different PC a couple of years later. My sister got Windows ME on a Dell Dimension she bought (I pleaded with the rep on the phone to let us spend the extra $100 for Windows 2000. He kept telling us "nothing doing Windows ME is better" So I caved and let them ship it with that) It worked ok for about seven months then one day *poof* Crash. Would not boot. No warning or anything and all the hardware was fine. Definitely a software problem. My sister's not one to download a bunch of crap or anything like that so I ended up loaning her a copy of Windows 2000 to get her going. No problems and she purchased a copy of XP Hoe later which worked pretty decently.
I've heard a host of other Windows ME horror stories so you SHOULD be proud that you've been able to use it and have a reliable system with it and not go insane.
And BTW, you're right about providing support to those who use ME. Wether it's shit or not you have to be familiar with it and be able to support it because there's a lot of people who bought systems with that on it and would sooner purchase a new computer three years from now than upgrade their OS.
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Date: 2004-09-01 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 08:12 pm (UTC)redheads
Date: 2004-09-01 08:22 pm (UTC)Re: redheads
Date: 2004-09-01 09:06 pm (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-01 09:11 pm (UTC)I'll drag my IE through the scum of the net(warez sites, fake porn sites, etc) in an attempt to completely trash my system, then run each anti-spyware app a few times to see what cleans what best.
And as for OS's crashing, they just do that sometimes. No one can tell me that the vaunted XP Pro doesn't crash, I see that nonsense every day at work. bad pool caller? unmountable boot volume? driver irql not less or equal? All design flaws. well, almost all. enough to make me look at XP the same way most people looked at ME.
And I am proud, thank you. Damn proud. Glad someone had the sense to understand what I was saying.
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Date: 2004-09-01 09:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-01 09:12 pm (UTC)Re: redheads
Date: 2004-09-01 09:15 pm (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-01 09:36 pm (UTC)I'm a 2K user myself and refuse to upgrade to XP.
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Date: 2004-09-02 12:58 am (UTC)ME was the root of all evil for me. I had it for one year, and about six months of that was dealing with a machine which only partially worked, crashed like crazy, and took three weeks to get back into one piece (I don't blame MS for that last one, I blame the unreliable repair company whom I used).
Since then, I had XP home, and migrated to XP Pro after formatting and losing the XP home CD. Originally, I had a few problems, but it's fine now. I format maybe once every six months, and reboot once every week or two, or after installing software. No issues at all.
The main issue I have with 2000 is it's alleged non-support for some games, and I just like a couple of XP features (e.g. transparent file names on the desktop).
You can't tell the difference between my machine and a 2k box, in regards to general UI.
Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-02 01:25 am (UTC)On the other hand, a NT system that's up and running tends to stay that way better than a 9x one, in my experience. I think I've had two system crashes/lockups on this machine in about a year which weren't a direct result of my stupidity.
That said, I'm blumin' impressed that you managed to get a ME system into something you wanted to use on a regular basis. That's more than I could ever do, certainly.
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Date: 2004-09-02 02:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-02 02:38 am (UTC)Any DOS game will not produce any sound unless you get hold of something like VDMSound. Plus, Populous: The Beginning refuses to run for me. But I can live with that, as long as UT runs.
and I just like a couple of XP features (e.g. transparent file names on the desktop).
Been done - WindowBlinds and it's friends will do that, and so will a neat little utility I came across. It can be got here (mirror site, current site is down).
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Date: 2004-09-02 05:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-02 07:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-02 07:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-02 07:38 am (UTC)Short answer? 98 did what I needed.
Slightly longer answer - I 'd slimlined and controlled 98 to the point where I'd have insane amounts of uptime - more than once the only reason my machine had to reboot was due to the clock time over the limit :D
If you take the time and make your OS your bitch, instead of the other way around, there's no damn reason to change, despite what anyone else says. If it's stable and does what you want, go for it!
(And yes, I do run XP now. Mostly because poor win98 just can't handle 1.5gb RAM ;_;.....but she lives on in my games machine! :D)
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Date: 2004-09-02 08:09 am (UTC)One was my current PC, which was home built. The other was an IBM Aptiva, about a Celeron 450 or so, which I was handed. Cleaned viruses off, ripped out the crap from the default install, upgraded it to ME.
My main PC? Total crap with ME. I couldn't run it for more than 3 days without having to reboot, because of the memory leaks. It drove me insane for six months. I hated it with a passion. I bought XP Pro the week it came out and put it on the PC and it's run like a champ ever since. Absolutely no trouble.
The Aptiva? It ran ME beautifully. Absolutely no trouble. I /liked/ it on that one; it made a great low-end gaming PC at the time. Granted, it did have a power problem and would randomly shut off and require you to unplug it for 15 minutes before it would come on again, but that's not an OS problem.
I've never had the blue screen issues with NT or XP. I have had a time or two where I couldn't run a game and would lock, but I haven't tried since I got a new vid card. Most of my NT problems were when I was thrashing my poor old 233 with 80 MB of ram with it.
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Date: 2004-09-02 09:10 am (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-02 10:20 am (UTC)never had a mystery crash, ever.
i have trashed it on my own in experimenting. and i have to say i have used previoud windows os's fro a while out of despiration (gotta game) but xp i will actually give credit as being a decent os.
i skipped 2k 98 right to xp. hated me as well. had it crash on me during install. 2 discs. turned out to be a hardware incompatability that 98 didnt have weirdly enough
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Date: 2004-09-02 10:25 am (UTC)http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/index.htm
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Date: 2004-09-02 11:02 am (UTC)i think winme is trash :)
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Date: 2004-09-02 03:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-02 03:56 pm (UTC)Re: redheads
Date: 2004-09-03 10:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-03 10:07 am (UTC)Re: redheads
Date: 2004-09-04 03:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-06 10:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-06 07:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-07 06:23 am (UTC)i think the main thing is that 2003 has all the core of xp but most of the extra weirdness just not included. alot like heading from 98 to ntworkstation/2000.
additionally i thin there is some newer memory mangement and similar stuff. but i think the manin advantage is in the SMP handling.
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Date: 2004-09-07 10:29 am (UTC)I'm sure there's a similar thing under the other options.
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Date: 2004-09-08 07:46 am (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-11 05:20 am (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-11 05:24 am (UTC)(Actually, looking at keyboard, thinko is probably more accurate...)
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Date: 2004-09-11 07:02 am (UTC)Re: Supporter of Win ME?
Date: 2004-09-11 07:07 am (UTC)I don't think it is considered acceptable for the plural of OS, though?
(Then again, "boxen" isn't exactly acceptable English, anyway...)