Yeah, dude...they're hosed...
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:22 amPardon me while I actually rag on our company's "IT support" guy.
I've been in "the business" for, oh, 15 years now. I know what tech support is like. It sucks. That's why I moved on to network engineering. No customers to deal with. :)
I understand that 98% of the time when your users bitch about computer problems, THEY are the problem.
However...when 95% of the Dell Latitude laptops given out a few months ago to everybody in the NOC (replacing our desktop PCs) are getting BSODs on a fairly regular basis (mine does it once or twice a night), sitting on your ass and making folks jump through hoops to get 'em replaced is NOT a cool thing.
Even told one guy here "don't like it? Call my boss..." So they did. Funny that...got his laptop replaced ASAP after that. He's finally replacing mine tomorrow...after almost a MONTH of having a ticket open, nagging, e-mailing, and finally having to threaten to "go up the food chain".
Yeah...not all problems are user caused. Sometimes we get crappy equipment. :)
I've been in "the business" for, oh, 15 years now. I know what tech support is like. It sucks. That's why I moved on to network engineering. No customers to deal with. :)
I understand that 98% of the time when your users bitch about computer problems, THEY are the problem.
However...when 95% of the Dell Latitude laptops given out a few months ago to everybody in the NOC (replacing our desktop PCs) are getting BSODs on a fairly regular basis (mine does it once or twice a night), sitting on your ass and making folks jump through hoops to get 'em replaced is NOT a cool thing.
Even told one guy here "don't like it? Call my boss..." So they did. Funny that...got his laptop replaced ASAP after that. He's finally replacing mine tomorrow...after almost a MONTH of having a ticket open, nagging, e-mailing, and finally having to threaten to "go up the food chain".
Yeah...not all problems are user caused. Sometimes we get crappy equipment. :)
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Date: 2010-06-17 11:39 am (UTC)After two years of replacing their desktop printers under warranty after them being on the desk for *maybe* two months TOPS, rotate another one in, it either works out of the box or doesn't, two months, lather rinse repeat, we FINALLY got them to start replacing the crap bustedass 1720s with a better model at no additional charge. We tried their desktops for exactly one month before we all looked at each other and said, "Yeah these are f*cking crap" and switched back to HP. And don't EVEN get me started on their laptops, JFC I could get more work done on a folded piece of cardboard with letters drawn on the bottom half.
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Date: 2010-06-17 12:13 pm (UTC)You go out and buy consumer grade stuff for business though, and you'll notice a problem.
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Date: 2010-06-17 12:28 pm (UTC)--Hawk
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Date: 2010-06-17 01:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-17 04:46 pm (UTC)But with NBD support, I don't care and they get fixed.
But they're support and software works great.
You can get a significant savings on "consumer" grade equipment. But you need to explicitly state all componenets, since a single bad componenet can ruin your day, and there can be higher day-to-day support costs.
Given a choice and no budget constraints, I'd go for Dell.
Though in the end it comes down to volume. If you buy enough machines from Dell, the price gets down to essentially the same as a well built clone.
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Date: 2010-06-17 06:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-17 06:52 pm (UTC)Had to talk the CFO out of trying to roll w/consumer-grade hardware because it would "save money." A quick run of the numbers on the end he WASN'T considering sorted that right quick.
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Date: 2010-06-17 10:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-17 11:36 pm (UTC)Latitudes, OptiPlexes, and Precisions, however . . . I can run one of them for years and make you a pair of pants afterward.
Moral: buy the corporate-grade machines if yer gonna buy Dell at all.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:49 am (UTC)For my company, it's all the USFF Optiplexes and Latitudes for the desktops and laptops. The servers are generally the same; Poweredge all around, unless there's a 'damn good reason' otherwise.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:59 am (UTC)-Az
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Date: 2010-06-18 04:31 am (UTC)IME when an entire deployment (totality minus one equals "entire," for all practical purposes) is failing, hardware is not the first place to go look for a root cause. The odds of twenty systems (to pull a number out of the air) failing in a similar way more or less simultaneously due to hardware . . . well, I'm not sure they make numbers that big.
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Date: 2010-06-18 04:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 05:19 pm (UTC)