[identity profile] darkrose.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] techrecovery
Dear Luser,

Yeah, I went to MCSE bootcamp too..back in the NT 4 days as a matter of fact. Windows 2000 was still called "Windows NT 5" and was in very early beta by the end of the course work.

I regularly cracked the instructor's machine during lectures, despite his best efforts to lock it down. He didn't even know it was me until I started laughing hysterically at pulling out random contents of the system32 folder onto his desktop during a powerpoint presentation causing a pretty major crash of his PC. Sure, I did minor things, too..inserting slides with wacky sounds into presentations, cracking the firewall so my mate and I could play internet games while we were supposed to be learning all that great marketing material about NT 4..stuff like that...

He bought me lunch for the last month of class when he figured out all the computer trouble he was having was because some little shiat (me) was pwning him. The last day I formatted his drive for him..unfortunately he was still trying to use it.

So yeah, I've got NT 4 wallpaper. Those courses simply taught me that I didn't want to be a MS admin.. It was the biggest waste of (my employer's) $8,797.50 (+$600 for tests IIRC), EVER. I wasn't working for that company 6 months after completing the course. I turned away from the "Microsoft Family" (that sometimes reminds me of the Jonestown family in a lot of ways) and started learning Linux for real. I had dabbled in Linux here and there in the past, and after the MCSE training fun, I realized my skill sets were better suited for the CLI.

So yeah.. ask me if I really give a damn that you're an MCSE. Go ahead, ask me. Wait, I'll save you the trouble. NO, I don't care.

What I *DO* care about is that Microsoft is "granting" you an MCSE and you don't even know the keystrokes to copy and paste. That makes me sad..but then I fondly remember my 6 months of MCSE boot camp, spending my Saturdays hacking the living shiat out of that guy's computer..and I laugh..so thanks for the laugh, pal. I wasn't laughing at the fact that my 4 year old knows how to do something on the computer that you don't, oh MCSE God..I was laughing at the days gone by..when pwning a Microsoft box was just as easy then as it was now when an idiot like you is running it.

No love,
~Darkrose

Date: 2007-08-28 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecrazyfinn.livejournal.com
Damn, those idiots still exist? Or does he have an NT4 track MCSE? (which are all expired). Win2K/Server2k3 track is much harder to get certified in, MS upped the exam difficulty seriously when they realized what a joke the MCSE had become.

As to me, I spent my time in NT4-track training doing the labs with RH5.2. That was more interesting than the 5 minutes it took to do the lab right once and then 3 hours of waiting for the rest of the class to catch up. Didn't help that the guy doing the training was so clueless that he couldn't figure out why a machine with ISA NE2000 NIC's and SB16 PnP Soundcards wouldn't network by default (hint, what's the default IRQ for those cards?).

Date: 2007-08-28 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tmesser.livejournal.com
ISA NE2000 NIC's and SB16 PnP Soundcards wouldn't network by default (hint, what's the default IRQ for those cards?)

Wow, it's been a while since I've heard that. IRQ 5, isn't it?

Date: 2007-08-28 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commonsensehere.livejournal.com
This story is fabricated we have an op failure here.

Date: 2007-08-28 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moopet.livejournal.com
Agreed.

Date: 2007-08-28 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catmmo.livejournal.com
Wow - I could've written this.

My favorite is my co-workers putting that they're A+ certified in their email signatures ... they made us get that at work and I'm still embarrassed about it. (I even took it off my resume after a recruiter laughed at me.)

Date: 2007-08-28 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecrazyfinn.livejournal.com
Yep, for both. Got a Pizza dinner for pointing that out, took me 30 seconds to diagnose & fix (all the lab systems had the same spec). The instructor had spent a good hour before class troubleshooting.

Date: 2007-08-28 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mawz.livejournal.com
Nope, SB was 5, most NE2000 clones were 5 as well.

Date: 2007-08-28 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wherdafux-d-cat.livejournal.com
The guys in the data center and hardware were in the habit of putting their certifications (including A+) in their sigfiles, bolded and often in larger font than their names.

So whenever I had to reply to one of their emails, I'd add 'History D-' or something equally inane and overfonted (and inaccurate :-รพ ) to my own sig.

After a little while, those sigfiles became a bit more reasonable, go figure.

Date: 2007-08-28 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecrazyfinn.livejournal.com
NE2000's were wierd little birds. Not PnP, but software configurable using a DOS utility (or in this case, the NT4 driver).

PnP SB16's were much more configurable than earlier models, the software configuration allowed many more IRQ and address options, but you often had to configure them like the old models to handle hardcoded software options (this wasn't an issue of course on NT4 systems, which couldn't run that software anyways).

Date: 2007-08-29 02:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jecook
yep.

I still think it amusing that the IT industry in general disdains academia for certifications, which generally mean dick to the people doing the work.

Hell, the only reason I took (and passed easily) the XP client exam for the MCSA is becuase work paid for it, and it got me a promotion. (Which is why I'm taking the other two core exams for that cert next year- work is paying for it.)

Date: 2007-08-29 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politas.livejournal.com
So you're proud about being a dick and messing up an instructor's day? Talk about transferral. Trainers aren't the problem, they're just trying to give the courses that people ask for.

Date: 2007-08-29 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politas.livejournal.com
Ah, not in that case, no.

Generally, I would hope that students would exceed their instructors, otherwise we would never achieve anything, would we?

Testing security

Date: 2007-08-29 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cog-dissident.livejournal.com
Big difference between testing a user's security and letting him know theres holes. Hey, maybe one popup during a presentation that says "your security could use work" and a good laugh can be had by all.

What you were doing was just giving the guy a hard time because you wanted to brag about the size of your e-penis.

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