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Our school is running a pilot scheme for Key Stage 3 exams. Today is the first batch of those exams, so we've got all of year 9 (aged 13/14) in IT rooms running this new software we've got for it. Each of the four of us has been allocated a classroom to make sure there're no technical problems etc. All well and good, we expected teething problems, and were prepeared for that. What we (or at least me) were unprepared for was the abuse we'd be getting from the little angels. I''ve been called fat, told I'm not qualified to do my job, and been told to "fuck off", "piss off" and been called a "fucking idiot". The last three were all by the same student. An incident report will be raised. I am not prepared to put up with that.

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what the...????? Wasn't the teacher in the room with them?

someone needs a LART. badly.

IV

wow... it never ceases to amaze me just how obnoxious and rude some students are...

They learn it from their parents. Unfortunately.

o_O Your icon is just...wrong on SO many levels

*gives icon love anyhow*

Our society's apparent turn towards avoiding all personal responsibility has given birth to a generation of sociopaths, I swear. Some of these little angels are being TAUGHT that they should have no cares as to the ramifications of their actions.

What was once a clinically-defined mental illness is now seemingly becoming a norm.

Two teachers, and two teaching assistants at the time. The comments were witnessed, and we're going to raise an incident report. Unfortunately, all that means is he'll spend a day in "seclusion" which is basically a classroom decked out like a living room with TV and internet etc. I'm sure that'll teach him a lesson :\

I was thinking more along the lines of a shotgun...

And woirryingly, they're getting worse. Even a couple of years ago, a kid saying that to a member of staff would have been on an external suspension immediately. We're not allowed to do that any more :\

Ditto the lack of discipline. Bleh.

Worrying, isn't it? I don't know about elsewhere in the world, but the government here in the UK seems to be far too concerned with the "rights" of the student than those of the staff members, or with teaching the little fuckers to be reasonable human beings.

you're not?! that's rediculous! i remember when i was in high school, if you were caught cussing you immediately had after-school detention and if you were an even worse troublemaker you got at least an in-school detention. *sigh* i have a lot of respect for those working in grade schools because of how awful students are.

i don't think it's a bad thing to be concerned with the "rights" of students but when it goes as far as to not allow you to discipline the bastards when they ARE out of line... that's a tad rediculous. it's a problem here in the states too. i'm sure you've caught bits of info on all the school shootings we've had over here. society seems to have gone passive-agressive socially. you just can't hurt anyone's feelings and i'm guessing discipline would hurt the poor bastards' feelings. *rolls her eyes*

The whole rights issue seems to have gone too far now. We can't discipline them beyond a 10 minute detention - what's that going to teach them?! I can (and do) remove internet access - but only if they're accessing stuff they shouldn't be (there was a great one a few weeks back where I caught the kid surfing Pamela Anderson porn. He denied everything, till I told him the URL of the site he'd been to). But beyond that, we can't do anything. It's stupid, it really is.

Luckily we've not had any of the shootings here that you've had there yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. The kids aren't getting the discipline at home, and we can't give it to them at school...what chance do any of us stand? :(

Same when I was at school (although it depresses me to think of how many years ago that was!). We didn't get away with a thing - and rightly so. I could never be a teacher - I'd be committing murder by the end of the first week. Thank God for lockable office doors and iPods!

Unfortunately, your government seem to be adopting the kid-gloves technique of handling discipline in schools that we in the states have been using for the past 10 years or so.

I'm not advocating caning or whipping, mind you, but we recently had a case where a local school system outlawed grading with red pens because red ink "caused undue stress." They changed to purple.

My inner teenager was heard to quote, "OMGWTFBBQ" and other such gems.

What the...? That's CRAZY! And they expect these kids to run the world of tomorrow. They don't stand a fucking chance.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Our government seems to be taking lessons from yours. Unfortunately, they're not taking the right ones. We didn't have corporal punishment even when I was at school, but we were still taught about discipline, and how not to talk to adults. I'd never have had the guts to swear at a member of staff like that - and I'd have expected a bollocking for it if I had. Christ, I'm 35 and I still won't swear in front of my mother!

I only ever had one detention at school (didn't do my history homework), and I still remember the conversation with a friend who lived in the same street as me. We were both terrified of telling our mothers that we had detention. When I told mine though, she just looked at me and said "well, it serves you right". But that was enough - I never skipped my homework again.

wow... 10 minute detention? um... hello kindergarden time out! i fear for the future, i really do.

Me too :\

HAHA yea i remember reading something on cnn.com about that. i read it at work and had a hard time not laughing out loud at that one. god forbid students learn how to deal with stress at a young age or better yet... challenge themselves to do better. -_-

i had a chance to go to Russia back in my senior year of high school. i remember being extremely jealous of the school system because it seemed to allow those who weren't academically inclined to still learn to be functional adults but let those who were academically inclined soar in terms of how much they learned. plus, the discipline in the classroom was phenominal. not to an abusive point but just enough so there was a definitive boundary between student and teacher without it being domineering.

i agree though, as a kid i was scared to death of getting in trouble - being sent to the principle and such - because i knew there'd be issues when my parents found out. i hate how parents refuse to take responsibility for their children these days. i'm only 23 and my parents didn't do much disciplining of my brother and i, but we were taught right vs wrong. when i become a parent i'm definitely going to try to raise my kids as my parents raised us... free thinkers with knowledge of right vs wrong. i'm all about giving kids various freedoms as they grow older but only if they deserve it. -_-

haha, i hear ya. my mom has always told me i'd make a great teacher. i do enjoy teaching people new things. there's a certain satisfaction to being able to help someone learn something new. but damn, i'd have to at least be a college professor to survive. i couldn't deal with grade schoolers. i'd get in trouble for having some toy on my desk named "mr stabby" and being tempted to use it on the most wretched miscreants.

i definitely prefer stupid end users as sad as that may be

wtf?! *sigh* your description of "seclusion" reminds me of how inmates get more luxuries than many hard working adults! this world is so damn backwards!

enough so there was a definitive boundary between student and teacher without it being domineering.

That's what we had - and it worked. We respected the staff, and we respected the equipment. We have to replace the mouse at least once a year on every one of our 400 machines because the kids rip the buttons off of them. We'd never have got away with that!

i become a parent i'm definitely going to try to raise my kids as my parents raised us... free thinkers with knowledge of right vs wrong.

Ditto. If only more people felt that way :\

I dunno, maybe things will improve as people realise what they're doing. I hate to think of them getting any worse.

Mr Stabby? Genius! I must get one...

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